From gogubbe at chello.se Wed Mar 1 06:52:27 2006 From: gogubbe at chello.se (Mats-Einar J) Date: Wed Mar 1 06:52:27 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] lost emailadresses....please help Message-ID: <001f01c63d26$9d4f2860$cdf796c1@matseinar> Hi evryone ive just had a major cleaning in my computor reinstalling the whole thing and i lost my emailadressbook all of you that ive been in touch with please email me on gogubbe@chello.se so i can rebuild my adress register this sucks but heck its not what has happend that does my emotions its how i react so focusing on the solution instead of clinging on to the problem is what i try to do I need the europeean mebers addresses iff possible and all you that has been in contact with me please email me agan. thanx0 Mats-Einar J Stockholm Sweden Nuttified Checkhollic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060301/4efb9028/attachment.htm From samuel.galano at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 17:41:25 2006 From: samuel.galano at gmail.com (Samuel Galano) Date: Wed Mar 1 17:41:29 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] lost emailadresses....please help In-Reply-To: <001f01c63d26$9d4f2860$cdf796c1@matseinar> References: <001f01c63d26$9d4f2860$cdf796c1@matseinar> Message-ID: <251435f20603011441g55a92566q6a4cba08ee879a1e@mail.gmail.com> The same has happened to me in the past. Just so I know in the future, what do your friends call you? I'm unfamiliar with the format of your name. Just as a memory jog, I'm an Aerobus owner who lives in Ohio presently, but has a home in Jackson Hole Wyoming. Feel free to contact me with the simplest questions concerning anything in the states that I can help you with. Having read your many e-mails, I think you must be a nice person. Sincerely, Samuel Galano On 3/1/06, Mats-Einar J wrote: > > Hi evryone ive just had a major cleaning in my computor reinstalling the > whole thing and i lost my emailadressbook all of you that ive been in touch > with please email me on gogubbe@chello.se so i can rebuild my adress > register this sucks but heck its not what has happend that does my > emotions its how i react so focusing on the solution instead of clinging > on to the problem is what i try to do > > I need the europeean mebers addresses iff possible and all you that has > been in contact with me please email me agan. > > thanx0 > > Mats-Einar J > Stockholm Sweden > Nuttified Checkhollic > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060301/c6771e81/attachment.htm From van.laar at wxs.nl Thu Mar 2 05:17:08 2006 From: van.laar at wxs.nl (van.laar@wxs.nl) Date: Thu Mar 2 05:17:18 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 Message-ID: Hello List! A few months ago I mailed to the list about my Checker (1968 Marathon with a 307 V8) running bad. I got some really good advice and I have checked/tested everything suggested. Still running bad. Probably cilinder problems. Now i'm thinking about replacing the engine with a 350 (cheaper/better performance) or I could have the 307 revised to keep the car as original as possible. What would you do? (I also posted this on the Checker taxi stand message board) regards from The Netherlands Peter From gogubbe at chello.se Thu Mar 2 05:44:18 2006 From: gogubbe at chello.se (Mats-Einar J) Date: Thu Mar 2 05:44:41 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350/+ Europeean Checker meet info References: Message-ID: <000101c63de6$50435440$cdf796c1@matseinar> Hi Peter a restoration kit for your engine isnt that expensivce Booring your cylinders restoring the tops and putting new pistongs bearrings and all in it will make the thing new and you will have matching numbers wich will keep the value of the car a lot better. The cost for buying a repalacementengine will be about the same. Allmost all checkers i know of in Europe has changed engines or rebuilt to V8 so a completly original checker is a good thing indeed. even i has changed the interior on mine but i still have evrything that is original in storage so that i ccan change back if i want to. But if you will change engine keep the old one and retore it later and go for a 1989 with injection or newer to buy an old van and take the engine from that is allmost allways the cheapest but a brand new engine 350 basic model aint that expensive either apx 2000-3000 Eur. new is allways new. Well it all depends on what your wallet allows you to do but original is allways original. Btw i hope you know that we are planning a european Checker meet an Denmark in beginning of August this year. http://www.viking-run.dk/0nul.htm We hope to see as many pepole there as possible vikving run is supposed to be a pretty good meeting the biggest in Denmark actually. Moore info will be comming during the planning. If anyone is planning to go and needs parts place we can have a small internal Swapmeet among us members. Thats all folks C-.ya"ll somwhere Regards Mats-Einar Jakobsson President of CCCoEurope Nuttified Checker hollic passionate but nut crazy *grin* ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 > Hello List! > > A few months ago I mailed to the list about my Checker (1968 Marathon > with a 307 V8) running bad. I got some really good advice and I have > checked/tested everything suggested. Still running bad. Probably > cilinder problems. Now i'm thinking about replacing the engine with a > 350 (cheaper/better performance) or I could have the 307 revised to > keep the car as original as possible. What would you do? > (I also posted this on the Checker taxi stand message board) > > regards from The Netherlands > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From samuel.galano at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 06:15:24 2006 From: samuel.galano at gmail.com (Samuel Galano) Date: Thu Mar 2 06:15:36 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <251435f20603020315t28ff4afcx4a2886fd3fcb321f@mail.gmail.com> Dear Peter: I never regretted installing the rebuilt 350 in my Aerobus, Even with the original carburetor rebuilt and reinstalled, I still got 20MPG (sometimes even better on the highway when I kept it under 75MPH.) If my memory serves me correctly, I might have learned that there was a difference between the truck engines available and automobile engines in that the truck engines had heavier, stronger crankshafts and maybe a four bolt mainshaft, which I opted for for durability. Some of the other guys on the list have better mechanical knowledge than I do; they'll know. For 10 years, I used that vehicle to it's full potential. Working at the time as a stair builder and finish carpenter it was always fully loaded with tools and materials. I always thought that the Borg-Warner transmission was it's only weakness and changed that to a TH400 several years ago. With all season truck tires that were a bit oversized, I drove in heavy snows in the mountains of Wyoming and never had any problems. In fact I remember pulling 4X4s out of the snow banks with the tether that I always kept in the back. If you weren't all the way in Netherlands, I'd give you the 350 I've got on the engine stand in the garage. I highly recommend the change. Unless you're driving a museum quality car, you won't sacrifice a thing making the upgrade in engines, in my opinion. Samuel On 3/2/06, van.laar@wxs.nl wrote: > > Hello List! > > A few months ago I mailed to the list about my Checker (1968 Marathon > with a 307 V8) running bad. I got some really good advice and I have > checked/tested everything suggested. Still running bad. Probably > cilinder problems. Now i'm thinking about replacing the engine with a > 350 (cheaper/better performance) or I could have the 307 revised to > keep the car as original as possible. What would you do? > (I also posted this on the Checker taxi stand message board) > > regards from The Netherlands > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060302/b649a1b9/attachment.htm From jfay at checkercarclub.org Thu Mar 2 13:57:35 2006 From: jfay at checkercarclub.org (Joe Fay) Date: Thu Mar 2 14:03:18 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <000101c63de6$50435440$cdf796c1@matseinar> Message-ID: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> Should Checker start building cars again. Should it look like the Checker we all know and love? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ From samuel.galano at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 14:30:09 2006 From: samuel.galano at gmail.com (Samuel Galano) Date: Thu Mar 2 14:30:11 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> References: <000101c63de6$50435440$cdf796c1@matseinar> <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <251435f20603021130v399d691cla5dc4d94ea67892e@mail.gmail.com> Joe: I hate to be the voice of doom, but if you look at what consumer reports published today about American auto manufacturers, it was more or less a death nell for them. The world is changing too fast for us Checkerheads to keep up. I give it another 5 years before we have to have a permit to take our Checkers out on the road. Personally, I've always minimized my gasoline consumption (although I'd like to do better) but I'm afraid it's too little too late. American manufacturers should have stepped up to the plate 30 years ago and given everyone the chance to change our dependency on oil, but they didn't and the reserves are dwindling and there's really nothing that will turn back the clock. With Asia now becoming a growing automobile market, the Pandora's box has been opened. If a Checker can be designed that can compete with the Toyota Prius, then maybe we have something to look forward to. Sorry I'm so jaded, but I have to limit the amount of news that I read or watch just to keep from going to the doctor for happy pills. Samuel On 3/2/06, Joe Fay wrote: > > > Should Checker start building cars again. Should it look like the > Checker we all know and love? > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060302/6b117342/attachment.htm From gogubbe at chello.se Thu Mar 2 15:09:48 2006 From: gogubbe at chello.se (Mats-Einar J) Date: Thu Mar 2 15:09:51 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter References: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <000601c63e35$4255dcf0$cdf796c1@matseinar> OHHHH YEAH!!!! Emagine a Checker with the classic look but modern tecnique under the shell whata great car ..in the edge of retrodesign i would luv to see a checker retro design comming thru!!!! Luv the idea go for it checker motor corp.s (RIP) Mats-Einar J Stockholm Sweden Nuttified checkerhollic and President of CCCoE ( wish we where a chapter to the us motherclub officially) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Fay" To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter Should Checker start building cars again. Should it look like the Checker we all know and love? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From polyhistor1 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 2 16:08:46 2006 From: polyhistor1 at yahoo.com (Carguy) Date: Thu Mar 2 16:08:49 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <20060302210846.70128.qmail@web31410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No, if they were to build a modern taxicab, it should be modern! I'd like to see something like the Ghia prototype of 1970 or the Rabbit-based prototype from when Ed Cole was at Checker in the late '70s. But it would need to be front-wheel drive, and either a hybrid drivetrain or diesel. I'm afraid our Checkers as we know them are too big and too thirsty for modern taxi service at current and future fuel prices. Ron Shull Tucson Joe Fay wrote: Should Checker start building cars again. Should it look like the Checker we all know and love? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060302/ba47cf22/attachment.htm From jasalley78749 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 2 20:28:35 2006 From: jasalley78749 at yahoo.com (James Alley) Date: Thu Mar 2 20:28:39 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <251435f20603021130v399d691cla5dc4d94ea67892e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060303012835.76654.qmail@web53302.mail.yahoo.com> Samuel: there you go playing the reality card. Ha! Well cars are dreams for us some days. When they don't break down anyway. On those good days, I still like to think we'll be driving these Checkers when we're 90. I'm 52 and have a only child-son is 5, and I've already started loking for a Checker Wagon for him. My plan is for a small v-6 with electronic shift transmission. Maybe a drive train from an '02 Camaro. They had rear wheel drive 3.8 liter (not the old Chevy 229, but the Buick 231) and with a retro fit wiring harness from "Painless Performance" I'll bet you could break 30 mpg on the highway. Specially with a worked over computer. Oh yeah, and the Dana 3.07 rear end. AND! I was in Hancock Fabrics yesterday, and saw some extremely cool retro material, very heavy-would make great interior. Hell man maybe the wife will get in on the fun. Here in Texas cars 30 yrs old or more are not subject to emission standards so you can jack the timing program around anyway you want. WOW! Did I say cars are for dreamin'. There I go again. This weekend I'm putting in a new transmission I bought on ebay. It's supposed to be able to handle 300 HP, so my 350 2bbl probably wont overload it, even pulling my travel trailer. Oh yeah, maybe Checker could make a come back like the "New Beetle" and the "New Mini". Kind of upscale with less rattles, squeeks, and NO RUST......Nah. James Alley 1973 Checker A-12 --- Samuel Galano wrote: > Joe: I hate to be the voice of doom, but if you look > at what consumer > reports published today about American auto > manufacturers, it was more or > less a death nell for them. The world is changing > too fast for us > Checkerheads to keep up. I give it another 5 years > before we have to have a > permit to take our Checkers out on the road. > Personally, I've > always minimized my gasoline consumption (although > I'd like to do better) > but I'm afraid it's too little too late. American > manufacturers should have > stepped up to the plate 30 years ago and given > everyone the chance to change > our dependency on oil, but they didn't and the > reserves are dwindling and > there's really nothing that will turn back the > clock. With Asia now becoming > a growing automobile market, the Pandora's box has > been opened. If a Checker > can be designed that can compete with the Toyota > Prius, then maybe we have > something to look forward to. Sorry I'm so jaded, > but I have to limit the > amount of news that I read or watch just to keep > from going to the doctor > for happy pills. Samuel > > On 3/2/06, Joe Fay wrote: > > > > > > Should Checker start building cars again. Should > it look like the > > Checker we all know and love? > > > > Joe Fay > > President > > Checker Car Club of America > > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Checker mailing list > > Checker@textfiles.com > > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From baggins at well.com Thu Mar 2 21:49:00 2006 From: baggins at well.com (baggins@well.com) Date: Thu Mar 2 21:49:23 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter Message-ID: <200603030249.k232nApF022565@atlmta3.mycingular.net> I am building "modern technique under the shell" in a sporty version of the A12W Wagon. Right now I am riding the train home from visiting the shop tthat is doing the work. There are some photos in the gallery of the club site. Four wheel disc brakes, IRS, rack and pinion steering,alloy block V8 (6 litre fuel injected supercharged GMPP LS 2) and air conditioning. I hope it all works together to provide a modern driving experience. I am very happy with the quality of the work being done at the shop (Newman's Car Creations in Paso Robles California,) although the time and cost estimates were exceeded long ago. -----Original Message----- From: "Mats-Einar J" Subj: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 12:00 Size: 1K To: "Checker Mailing List" OHHHH YEAH!!!! Emagine a Checker with the classic look but modern tecnique under the shell whata great car ..in the edge of retrodesign i would luv to see a checker retro design comming thru!!!! Luv the idea go for it checker motor corp.s (RIP) Mats-Einar J Stockholm Sweden Nuttified checkerhollic and President of CCCoE ( wish we where a chapter to the us motherclub officially) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Fay" To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter Should Checker start building cars again. Should it look like the Checker we all know and love? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com Thu Mar 2 22:06:05 2006 From: john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com (john_weinhoeft) Date: Thu Mar 2 22:04:31 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <200603030249.k232nApF022565@atlmta3.mycingular.net> References: <200603030249.k232nApF022565@atlmta3.mycingular.net> Message-ID: <4407B29D.7020508@insightbb.com> Sounds like every development project I've even been involved in ;-) You can only have any two of the following three qualities: 1. on schedule 2. under budget 3. high quality John W From baggins at well.com Thu Mar 2 23:22:00 2006 From: baggins at well.com (baggins@well.com) Date: Thu Mar 2 23:22:19 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350/+ Europeean Checker meet info Message-ID: <200603030422.k234M779010374@wcmta1.mycingular.net> I have a 1968 307 & 1972 350 I do not think the power difference is that much. The 350 has a special manifold cam & carb and is a heavy duty (4 bolt main bearing, high nickel content steel block) engine. At full throttle the 350 is faster, especially at higher rpm. The 307 goes over 100 mph (150 kph) with ease on highway 5 and uses less gasoline. -----Original Message----- From: "Mats-Einar J" Subj: Re: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350/+ Europeean Checker meet info Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 2:39 Size: 2K To: , "Checker Mailing List" Hi Peter a restoration kit for your engine isnt that expensivce Booring your cylinders restoring the tops and putting new pistongs bearrings and all in it will make the thing new and you will have matching numbers wich will keep the value of the car a lot better. The cost for buying a repalacementengine will be about the same. Allmost all checkers i know of in Europe has changed engines or rebuilt to V8 so a completly original checker is a good thing indeed. even i has changed the interior on mine but i still have evrything that is original in storage so that i ccan change back if i want to. But if you will change engine keep the old one and retore it later and go for a 1989 with injection or newer to buy an old van and take the engine from that is allmost allways the cheapest but a brand new engine 350 basic model aint that expensive either apx 2000-3000 Eur. new is allways new. Well it all depends on what your wallet allows you to do but original is allways original. Btw i hope you know that we are planning a european Checker meet an Denmark in beginning of August this year. http://www.viking-run.dk/0nul.htm We hope to see as many pepole there as possible vikving run is supposed to be a pretty good meeting the biggest in Denmark actually. Moore info will be comming during the planning. If anyone is planning to go and needs parts place we can have a small internal Swapmeet among us members. Thats all folks C-.ya"ll somwhere Regards Mats-Einar Jakobsson President of CCCoEurope Nuttified Checker hollic passionate but nut crazy *grin* ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 > Hello List! > > A few months ago I mailed to the list about my Checker (1968 Marathon > with a 307 V8) running bad. I got some really good advice and I have > checked/tested everything suggested. Still running bad. Probably > cilinder problems. Now i'm thinking about replacing the engine with a > 350 (cheaper/better performance) or I could have the 307 revised to > keep the car as original as possible. What would you do? > (I also posted this on the Checker taxi stand message board) > > regards from The Netherlands > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker --- message truncated --- From tmowens44 at juno.com Thu Mar 2 23:56:14 2006 From: tmowens44 at juno.com (Thomas M Owens) Date: Thu Mar 2 23:57:55 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter Message-ID: <20060302.225614.-3268279.10.tmowens44@juno.com> Imagine the Checker station wagon on a 2007 Cadillac Escalade frame,and with its drivetrain, with perhaps the Escalade interior. The Checker SW is lighter than the Escalade, and with (8 cyl cylinder 7.0 liter) variable cylinder usage and OD automatic for better mileage and serious interior room. Main problem? Checker Motors cut up the body dies long ago and wouldn't license the name anyway. Another problem is Aerodynamics. Best highway mileage for my '64 SW with SBC 283 and 3.31 ratio rearend was 18 mpg, My family put 300,000 miles on it since new and I'm updating it to SBC 400 with OD. I bet I'll get better mileage with 70's technology. Upgrade to 21st century technology and it would get highway mileage in the mid 20's mpg (my '94 Caprice 9C1 ex police gets 24 mpg hwy). The Checker has been replaced by PT Cruisers, mini vans and SUVs. Sorry, Tom Owens Owner of 7 Checkers From baggins at well.com Fri Mar 3 01:29:00 2006 From: baggins at well.com (baggins@well.com) Date: Fri Mar 3 01:30:31 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter Message-ID: <200603030630.k236U2MP019050@atlmta4.mycingular.net> I was very fortunate when our house was built - on budget, ahead of schedule, great quality. The same guy will build our new place if we ever get through planning here in NIMBY land. -----Original Message----- From: john_weinhoeft Subj: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 18:54 Size: 334 bytes To: Checker Mailing List Sounds like every development project I've even been involved in ;-) You can only have any two of the following three qualities: 1. on schedule 2. under budget 3. high quality John W _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From jfay at checkercarclub.org Fri Mar 3 07:11:18 2006 From: jfay at checkercarclub.org (Joe Fay) Date: Fri Mar 3 07:17:01 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <20060302.225614.-3268279.10.tmowens44@juno.com> Message-ID: <200603031211.k23CBILb059395@checker.divisionpoint.net> My understanding form Chris Markin is that the only dies that have been destroyed are the dies for the hood and roof. All the other dies exist, but would need to be reworked On 3/3/2006, "Thomas M Owens" wrote: > Imagine the Checker station wagon on a 2007 Cadillac Escalade frame,and >with its drivetrain, with perhaps the Escalade interior. The Checker SW >is lighter than the Escalade, and with (8 cyl cylinder 7.0 liter) >variable cylinder usage and OD automatic for better mileage and serious >interior room. Main problem? Checker Motors cut up the body dies long ago >and wouldn't license the name anyway. Another problem is Aerodynamics. > Best highway mileage for my '64 SW with SBC 283 and 3.31 ratio rearend >was 18 mpg, My family put 300,000 miles on it since new and I'm updating >it to SBC 400 with OD. I bet I'll get better mileage with 70's >technology. Upgrade to 21st century technology and it would get highway >mileage in the mid 20's mpg (my '94 Caprice 9C1 ex police gets 24 mpg >hwy). > The Checker has been replaced by PT Cruisers, mini vans and SUVs. > >Sorry, >Tom Owens >Owner of 7 Checkers >_______________________________________________ >Checker mailing list >Checker@textfiles.com >http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ From gogubbe at chello.se Fri Mar 3 07:50:11 2006 From: gogubbe at chello.se (Mats-Einar J) Date: Fri Mar 3 07:50:10 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter References: <200603031211.k23CBILb059395@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <000601c63ec1$03ab5c50$cdf796c1@matseinar> letsd buy them hehe and build a checker on an SUV lol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Fay" To: Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter My understanding form Chris Markin is that the only dies that have been destroyed are the dies for the hood and roof. All the other dies exist, but would need to be reworked On 3/3/2006, "Thomas M Owens" wrote: > Imagine the Checker station wagon on a 2007 Cadillac Escalade frame,and >with its drivetrain, with perhaps the Escalade interior. The Checker SW >is lighter than the Escalade, and with (8 cyl cylinder 7.0 liter) >variable cylinder usage and OD automatic for better mileage and serious >interior room. Main problem? Checker Motors cut up the body dies long ago >and wouldn't license the name anyway. Another problem is Aerodynamics. > Best highway mileage for my '64 SW with SBC 283 and 3.31 ratio rearend >was 18 mpg, My family put 300,000 miles on it since new and I'm updating >it to SBC 400 with OD. I bet I'll get better mileage with 70's >technology. Upgrade to 21st century technology and it would get highway >mileage in the mid 20's mpg (my '94 Caprice 9C1 ex police gets 24 mpg >hwy). > The Checker has been replaced by PT Cruisers, mini vans and SUVs. > >Sorry, >Tom Owens >Owner of 7 Checkers >_______________________________________________ >Checker mailing list >Checker@textfiles.com >http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From pworth at valdosta.edu Fri Mar 3 09:16:28 2006 From: pworth at valdosta.edu (Paul Worth) Date: Fri Mar 3 09:16:34 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <4407B29D.7020508@insightbb.com> References: <200603030249.k232nApF022565@atlmta3.mycingular.net> <4407B29D.7020508@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <44084FBC.1060706@valdosta.edu> Amen to that! A local printshop has a good graphic to demonstrate that point. It is a triangle with the corners labelled "Fast", "Cheap" and "Good". Anytime you move toward one, you are moving away from the other two. john_weinhoeft wrote: > Sounds like every development project I've even been involved in ;-) > > You can only have any two of the following three qualities: > > 1. on schedule > 2. under budget > 3. high quality > > John W From lu3ke at yahoo.com Fri Mar 3 09:36:18 2006 From: lu3ke at yahoo.com (Tod Gemuese) Date: Fri Mar 3 09:36:18 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <20060303143618.59582.qmail@web52206.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I think that in today's world of micro-Taxis (I have actually seen Toyota Avalons and Dodge Stratuss (Stratuses? Stratii?) used for taxi cabs! Tiny and cramped!), there would definitely be a market for them. One just has to witness the ongoing success of purpose-built taxicabs here in the UK to realize that these vehicles are needed/wanted. The question becomes whether or not they would be able to sell enough of them to make it profitable. Thats a little bit more iffy. My understanding is that it is a lot more expensive to build a car that will meet minimum safety/economy standards today than it was 25 years ago. And even then, the profit margin on Checkers seems to have been fairly slim (otherwise they wouldn't have ceased production in the first place, no?).. So, to sum up, I think it would be WONDERFUL if Checker started making cars again... BUT... I'm not going to be holding my breath. It may be nice to think about, but It isn't going to happen. - Luke --- Joe Fay wrote: > > Should Checker start building cars again. Should it > look like the > Checker we all know and love? > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lu3ke at yahoo.com Fri Mar 3 09:42:04 2006 From: lu3ke at yahoo.com (Tod Gemuese) Date: Fri Mar 3 09:42:05 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <200603031211.k23CBILb059395@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <20060303144204.5466.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah, I mean, you can see the quality difference in the late model Checkers. 81s and 82s just don't fit together as well as the early 70s cars, for instance. By the end of the production runs, the dies just weren't nearly as sharp as they had been in previous years. The most obvious die change, though, would be the headlight bezel, I think.. If you look at how much the "overlap" of the brim shrinks over the years, you can practically trace how many times the die was broken and repaired. - Luke --- Joe Fay wrote: > > My understanding form Chris Markin is that the only > dies that have been > destroyed are the dies for the hood and roof. All > the other dies exist, > but would need to be reworked > > > > On 3/3/2006, "Thomas M Owens" > wrote: > > > Imagine the Checker station wagon on a 2007 > Cadillac Escalade frame,and > >with its drivetrain, with perhaps the Escalade > interior. The Checker SW > >is lighter than the Escalade, and with (8 cyl > cylinder 7.0 liter) > >variable cylinder usage and OD automatic for better > mileage and serious > >interior room. Main problem? Checker Motors cut up > the body dies long ago > >and wouldn't license the name anyway. Another > problem is Aerodynamics. > > Best highway mileage for my '64 SW with SBC 283 > and 3.31 ratio rearend > >was 18 mpg, My family put 300,000 miles on it since > new and I'm updating > >it to SBC 400 with OD. I bet I'll get better > mileage with 70's > >technology. Upgrade to 21st century technology and > it would get highway > >mileage in the mid 20's mpg (my '94 Caprice 9C1 ex > police gets 24 mpg > >hwy). > > The Checker has been replaced by PT Cruisers, > mini vans and SUVs. > > > >Sorry, > >Tom Owens > >Owner of 7 Checkers > >_______________________________________________ > >Checker mailing list > >Checker@textfiles.com > >http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tmowens44 at juno.com Fri Mar 3 10:33:11 2006 From: tmowens44 at juno.com (Thomas M Owens) Date: Fri Mar 3 10:34:29 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 Message-ID: <20060303.093311.-3268279.11.tmowens44@juno.com> Being in the Netherlands complicates the decision due to the price of fuel (higher than USA), Usage, and miles driven. The least expensive choice would be to overhaul the 307 with rings, bearings and gaskets rather than replace with a 350, but first I would check for common problems. Ninety percent of pre-computer car problems will be electrical (Distributor points, condenser, rotor, cap, plug wires, and/or spark plugs, or corroded connection. Once the problem was the resistor on the coil feed another time it was a bad ignition switch.), Seven percent of the problems will be air/fuel (carburetor, plugged air filter or fuel filter, bad fuel pump, plugged Emissions system) and 3% mechanical (bad valves/springs, broken ring, flat cam, etc...). A simple compression check will eliminate any mechanical problem. My bet is that your problem is electrical. I'd suggest first checking for sparks under the hood in dark garage. Sometimes it can be a simple loose wire (most likely on the high voltage side of the ignition) but in a dark garage there may be a light show to guide you. Check the compression to eliminate the mechanical 3% and then look to the fuel system. Take apart the fuel filter you should replace. If it is clogged you may have bought gas from an almost empty storage tank, picking up sediment and/or water in the fuel. Open the drain plug on the gas tank and drain one or two liters of the fuel into a bottle(examine for sediment and water) and throw away safely. That should eliminate sediment and water. If the gas has gone bad because it has sat in the tank too long, it will smell bad. If the gas has gone bad, drain and dispose of the whole tank and replace with a couple of liters of fresh gas. If the car runs better you are lucky, otherwise you will need to rebuild the carburetor to remove the varnish inside the carburetor from the old gas. To keep the Checker in top shape for travel, I would do a complete tune up with new spark plugs, wires, cap, rotor, condenser, air filter, fuel filter, and PVC valve, I'd also flush the liquids in the radiator, transmission, rear end, and brakes for future reliability on the road. I know shipping and import taxes really run the cost of parts up for you. Contact me off line. I may be able to buy the parts here cheaper. I have a friend traveling to the Netherlands next week and he might be able to bring them through customs and mail to you via Dutch Post. Let me know your needs quickly and I'll ask him if he will do it. The 350 is a better engine than the 307 but what would be best for depends on your usage. Again, the most economical would be to fix what you have. Tom Owens From samuel.galano at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 12:44:27 2006 From: samuel.galano at gmail.com (Samuel Galano) Date: Fri Mar 3 12:44:33 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <20060303143618.59582.qmail@web52206.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> <20060303143618.59582.qmail@web52206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <251435f20603030944t228d789ay5dc73bfcdfe25aff@mail.gmail.com> James: Thanks for the reality check. I almost forgot that the reason I participate in this club is because it gives me comfort. I'm the same age as you and yes, I have Checkers set aside in storage for the "boys" in the family too. I apologize to all my friends on the list for being a wet towel on the discussion. I just had a very bad day when Joe sent in the original question. I'm enjoying reading the answers. Thanks guys, Samuel On 3/3/06, Tod Gemuese wrote: > > Well, I think that in today's world of micro-Taxis (I > have actually seen Toyota Avalons and Dodge Stratuss > (Stratuses? Stratii?) used for taxi cabs! Tiny and > cramped!), there would definitely be a market for > them. One just has to witness the ongoing success of > purpose-built taxicabs here in the UK to realize that > these vehicles are needed/wanted. The question > becomes whether or not they would be able to sell > enough of them to make it profitable. Thats a little > bit more iffy. My understanding is that it is a lot > more expensive to build a car that will meet minimum > safety/economy standards today than it was 25 years > ago. And even then, the profit margin on Checkers > seems to have been fairly slim (otherwise they > wouldn't have ceased production in the first place, > no?).. > > So, to sum up, I think it would be WONDERFUL if > Checker started making cars again... BUT... I'm not > going to be holding my breath. It may be nice to > think about, but It isn't going to happen. > > - Luke > > --- Joe Fay wrote: > > > > > Should Checker start building cars again. Should it > > look like the > > Checker we all know and love? > > > > Joe Fay > > President > > Checker Car Club of America > > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Checker mailing list > > Checker@textfiles.com > > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060303/8c9f7c8e/attachment.htm From d69d69d69 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 3 14:21:40 2006 From: d69d69d69 at hotmail.com (Chuck and Janet) Date: Fri Mar 3 14:21:58 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060303/ed09c1f9/attachment.htm From Baggins at well.com Fri Mar 3 14:35:45 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Fri Mar 3 14:36:27 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 In-Reply-To: <20060303.093311.-3268279.11.tmowens44@juno.com> References: <20060303.093311.-3268279.11.tmowens44@juno.com> Message-ID: good to add brake fluid to the flush/replace list, IMHO On Mar 3, 2006, at 7:33 AM, Thomas M Owens wrote: > Being in the Netherlands complicates the decision due to the price of > fuel (higher than USA), Usage, and miles driven. The least expensive > choice would be to overhaul the 307 with rings, bearings and gaskets > rather than replace with a 350, but first I would check for common > problems. > Ninety percent of pre-computer car problems will be electrical > (Distributor points, condenser, rotor, cap, plug wires, and/or spark > plugs, or corroded connection. Once the problem was the resistor on > the > coil feed another time it was a bad ignition switch.), Seven > percent of > the problems will be air/fuel (carburetor, plugged air filter or fuel > filter, bad fuel pump, plugged Emissions system) and 3% mechanical > (bad > valves/springs, broken ring, flat cam, etc...). A simple compression > check will eliminate any mechanical problem. > My bet is that your problem is electrical. I'd suggest first > checking > for sparks under the hood in dark garage. Sometimes it can be a simple > loose wire (most likely on the high voltage side of the ignition) > but in > a dark garage there may be a light show to guide you. > Check the compression to eliminate the mechanical 3% and then > look to > the fuel system. Take apart the fuel filter you should replace. If > it is > clogged you may have bought gas from an almost empty storage tank, > picking up sediment and/or water in the fuel. Open the drain plug > on the > gas tank and drain one or two liters of the fuel into a bottle(examine > for sediment and water) and throw away safely. That should eliminate > sediment and water. If the gas has gone bad because it has sat in the > tank too long, it will smell bad. If the gas has gone bad, drain and > dispose of the whole tank and replace with a couple of liters of fresh > gas. If the car runs better you are lucky, otherwise you will need to > rebuild the carburetor to remove the varnish inside the carburetor > from > the old gas. > To keep the Checker in top shape for travel, I would do a complete > tune up with new spark plugs, wires, cap, rotor, condenser, air > filter, > fuel filter, and PVC valve, I'd also flush the liquids in the > radiator, > transmission, rear end, and brakes for future reliability on the road. > I know shipping and import taxes really run the cost of parts up > for > you. Contact me off line. I may be able to buy the parts here > cheaper. I > have a friend traveling to the Netherlands next week and he might > be able > to bring them through customs and mail to you via Dutch Post. Let > me know > your needs quickly and I'll ask him if he will do it. > The 350 is a better engine than the 307 but what would be best for > depends on your usage. Again, the most economical would be to fix what > you have. > > Tom Owens > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From firecad67 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 00:40:33 2006 From: firecad67 at yahoo.com (Rick Buck) Date: Sat Mar 4 00:40:40 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <200603021857.k22IvZMQ021321@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <20060304054033.60029.qmail@web51807.mail.yahoo.com> I would say it should look like a stylized modern version of the A11 & 12, something like the new T-birds. Rick --- Joe Fay wrote: > > Should Checker start building cars again. Should it > look like the > Checker we all know and love? > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From captunderdog at clearwire.net Sat Mar 4 11:21:32 2006 From: captunderdog at clearwire.net (Walt Taufen) Date: Sat Mar 4 11:22:43 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter In-Reply-To: <20060304054033.60029.qmail@web51807.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060304054033.60029.qmail@web51807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4409BE8C.7070001@clearwire.net> Yes, Checker should begin building 'purpose built' cars again. Yes they should look like the old ones, but in the same way that the new Mustangs look like the old ones and the new T-birds look like the old ones. Now here is where we depart from reality; it should be a hydrogen fuel cell powered car. (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fuelcell.shtml) And yes it would be "Big, Yellow, and Different". But we all know that there is no one who has what it takes to go against the 'powers that be' and try and break the bondage that big oil has over us. In a perfect world however....well we can dream can't we. God Bless. Walt From gjhans at fbx.com Sat Mar 4 23:21:28 2006 From: gjhans at fbx.com (Gary Hansen) Date: Sat Mar 4 23:21:39 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter References: <20060304054033.60029.qmail@web51807.mail.yahoo.com> <4409BE8C.7070001@clearwire.net> Message-ID: <003001c6400c$495350e0$b3f90243@computercd549e> Consider a new Checker using the new hydraulic hybrid combo that Ford is working on. Imagine a 60 mpg Aerobus. GH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Taufen" To: "Checker Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: [Checker-l] Question of the Quarter > Yes, Checker should begin building 'purpose built' cars again. Yes they > should look like the old ones, but in the same way that the new Mustangs > look like the old ones and the new T-birds look like the old ones. Now > here is where we depart from reality; it should be a hydrogen fuel cell > powered car. (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fuelcell.shtml) And yes it > would be "Big, Yellow, and Different". But we all know that there is no > one who has what it takes to go against the 'powers that be' and try and > break the bondage that big oil has over us. In a perfect world > however....well we can dream can't we. > > God Bless. > Walt > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From baggins at gmail.com Sun Mar 5 10:49:24 2006 From: baggins at gmail.com (Tom McIntyre) Date: Sun Mar 5 10:49:27 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <1ed5a1600603050749y26761543wd64567fd47de230@mail.gmail.com> I would like to see a version of the early post war cars, before they shrunk them to meet the 120" wheelbase law in New York City -- Tom McIntyre, CRNA PLEASE RESPOND TO: Baggins@Well.com From frank-parker at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 6 08:19:55 2006 From: frank-parker at sbcglobal.net (Frank J. Parker) Date: Mon Mar 6 08:20:54 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] RE: for sale In-Reply-To: <1ed5a1600603050749y26761543wd64567fd47de230@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c64120$aa226ea0$a69fd145@Graphix> http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/139389898.html From pworth at valdosta.edu Tue Mar 7 12:42:20 2006 From: pworth at valdosta.edu (Paul Worth) Date: Tue Mar 7 12:42:33 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Check 6-cyl dress-up Message-ID: <440DC5FC.6010307@valdosta.edu> This weekend, I bought another Checker (up to four now) to use the drivetrain and other parts. It is a 1978 A11 with six cylinder engine and Turbo 400 tranny. The body is unsalvageable but the drivetrain is great. I plan to use the chassis in building a Checker "Trekker" pickup. This truck is for my wife and we want to dress up the engine compartment a bit. Does anybody here have some good sources for dress-up parts for Chevy 250 engines? I have found a few things in the old Chevy pickup aftermarket and I know about Clifford Performance. What else is there? Paul Worth 72 A12 77 A11 77 A12 78 A11 From samuel.galano at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 13:09:37 2006 From: samuel.galano at gmail.com (Samuel Galano) Date: Tue Mar 7 13:09:37 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Check 6-cyl dress-up In-Reply-To: <440DC5FC.6010307@valdosta.edu> References: <440DC5FC.6010307@valdosta.edu> Message-ID: <251435f20603071009q3cfaf612kca0925994a88ea6c@mail.gmail.com> http://www.streetperformance.com/?re=Toolbar-HomePaul: go to StreetPerformance.com and download their toolbar for accessing aftermarket supplies. I've found everything under the sun for modifying my vehicles through this extraordinary source. It takes a while to navigate, but I've catalogued the Chevy engine upgrade links into my favorites and would be happy to share those with you specifically, but there's so much more available through the link I just gave you, that I thought you might enjoy looking at all the possibilities yourself. I tried to share this through the club web page by offering at a link on the designated page for doing that, but never received any response from the Checker Club. On 3/7/06, Paul Worth wrote: > > This weekend, I bought another Checker (up to four now) to use the > drivetrain and other parts. It is a 1978 A11 with six cylinder engine > and Turbo 400 tranny. The body is unsalvageable but the drivetrain is > great. I plan to use the chassis in building a Checker "Trekker" pickup. > > This truck is for my wife and we want to dress up the engine compartment > a bit. Does anybody here have some good sources for dress-up parts for > Chevy 250 engines? I have found a few things in the old Chevy pickup > aftermarket and I know about Clifford Performance. What else is there? > > Paul Worth > 72 A12 > 77 A11 > 77 A12 > 78 A11 > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060307/1e47a3b3/attachment.htm From jfay at checkercarclub.org Wed Mar 8 08:56:26 2006 From: jfay at checkercarclub.org (Joe Fay) Date: Wed Mar 8 09:05:14 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <251435f20603071009q3cfaf612kca0925994a88ea6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ From john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com Wed Mar 8 09:45:32 2006 From: john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com (john_weinhoeft) Date: Wed Mar 8 09:43:30 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> References: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <440EEE0C.4010406@insightbb.com> One and a half now ... I started off with one in 1999, an 82 A-11 LPG "Happy Cab" in need of major restoration. I wasn't getting it done fast enough so my wife suggested buying a nicer one. That's how I ended up with the 81 A-12 in November 2000. When I suggested selling the 82, my wife said keep since I had the storage space. So the 82 stayed. Somewhere along the way I bought a stockpile of NOS Checker body parts, enough to do a complete car plus some spares. Then I gave the 82 to Bryan in 2003 as a high school graduation gift. John W Joe Fay wrote: > Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: > > How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ From mryszka at filmschool.lodz.pl Wed Mar 8 09:51:36 2006 From: mryszka at filmschool.lodz.pl (mryszka@filmschool.lodz.pl) Date: Wed Mar 8 09:50:12 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> References: <251435f20603071009q3cfaf612kca0925994a88ea6c@mail.gmail.com> <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <36239.212.191.6.126.1141829496.squirrel@poczta2.filmschool.lodz.pl> And how many Checkers WISH to own? Hint - amount is limited to circa 3000. :) Regards, Maciek > > Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: > > How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > From gpollock at indiana.edu Wed Mar 8 10:29:20 2006 From: gpollock at indiana.edu (Pollock, Geoffrey K.) Date: Wed Mar 8 10:30:03 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] How many Checkers do you own? Message-ID: <8A1949EA38C49E4B8766CEED02E108CB273CEA@iu-mssg-mbx102.ads.iu.edu> I own 2 '73 A-11s, a driver in taxi regalia and another with a body beyond saving for a drivetrain. Geoff Pollock Bloomington, Indiana From polyhistor1 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 8 11:13:03 2006 From: polyhistor1 at yahoo.com (Carguy) Date: Wed Mar 8 11:12:59 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <20060308161303.79285.qmail@web31410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Five. One parts car sedan, one builder wagon, two driver wagons, and one driver sedan. Why more than one? Well, the first wagon led to the chance to buy two more in a package deal, which led to the parts car. Then I decided I wanted a sedan, and the driver sedan came up on eBay - here in town! One seems to lead to another ... Ron Shull Tucson Joe Fay wrote: Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060308/efa01099/attachment.htm From dbronx at aol.com Wed Mar 8 11:28:56 2006 From: dbronx at aol.com (dbronx@aol.com) Date: Wed Mar 8 11:29:02 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <8C810E48816AC65-1580-8683@mblk-d25.sysops.aol.com> One, a 1976 Marathon A-12. 6 cylinder. Of course, I'd barely know the car these days, as it's been in intensive care since April 2005. MAYBE I'll get the car back before the end of this month. Maybe. My wife has said that if we were ever to buy another Checker, she'd want an 8-door Aerobus and turn in our Chevy Suburban. She made it VERY clear that the Aerobus would be hers, and the Marathon would be mine. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Joe Fay To: checker@textfiles.com Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:56:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060308/01b7cae3/attachment.htm From tmowens44 at juno.com Wed Mar 8 12:44:59 2006 From: tmowens44 at juno.com (Thomas M Owens) Date: Wed Mar 8 12:46:21 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] How Many Checkers do you Own Message-ID: <20060308.114459.-778407.4.tmowens44@juno.com> I own 7 Checkers; Two sedans are donor cars, 1 Aero bus Limo (Stretched Sedan), 2 SWs, & 2 Sedans. My first was a '64 SW that my dad picked up new at the Factory. It had 150K miles when I got it ('84) and I put another 150K on it. Love the durability! The others were "finds" and each have a story. I stockpiled key suspension parts before they became rare to keep my fleet running. I have too many projects, but how does one choose to part with one? Slowly, I'm finishing up the original '64 SW. It has an overhauled SBC 400 with Vortec heads, Isky RV cam, Quadrajet 4 barrel carb, GM R-700 OD auto trans, Disc brakes (5x5 bolt pattern), 3.31 ratio Dana 44 rear end with Truetrac, heavy duty custom sway bars (front and rear), custom front springs (500# spring rate), and a new interior. Car has been first in California, then Texas (no salt). Once (whenever) the mechanics (I've done it all myself) are complete, it will get new paint. Car is being built as a driver on the cheap. My current daily drivers are both ('94 & '95) Caprice 9C1s (ex-police) with LT1 SBC2 engines. These are almost as durable as a Checker! From willietb at hotmail.com Wed Mar 8 18:45:57 2006 From: willietb at hotmail.com (William T. Brandum) Date: Wed Mar 8 18:46:00 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] RE: Both Questions of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: Q1: I say a retro style with modern mechanicals. I designed one for a Motor Trend contest a few years ago (Honorable Mention), but I wanted to change my design to look more Checker-y. I never got around to it, but what I'm thinking of looks like this: http://www.wired.com/wired/images.html?issue=13.11&topic=play&img=1&pg=16 A different photo was also in Old Cars Weekly. BTW, they stole the sliding doors idea from me. Q2: I only have one. I would have had two, but the one I found in a field just a few miles from my house was hauled away, despite my several attempts to contact the owner. @#$@#!! I want at least three more: a wagon, a hearsified A12W6, and a two door convertible. From willietb at hotmail.com Wed Mar 8 18:46:16 2006 From: willietb at hotmail.com (William T. Brandum) Date: Wed Mar 8 18:46:14 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] RE: Both Questions of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: Q1: I say a retro style with modern mechanicals. I designed one for a Motor Trend contest a few years ago (Honorable Mention), but I wanted to change my design to look more Checker-y. I never got around to it, but what I'm thinking of looks like this: http://www.wired.com/wired/images.html?issue=13.11&topic=play&img=1&pg=16 A different photo was also in Old Cars Weekly. BTW, they stole the sliding doors idea from me. Q2: I only have one. I would have had two, but the one I found in a field just a few miles from my house was hauled away, despite my several attempts to contact the owner. @#$@#!! I want at least three more: a wagon, a hearsified A12W6, and a two door convertible. ~Will From captunderdog at clearwire.net Wed Mar 8 20:33:13 2006 From: captunderdog at clearwire.net (Walt Taufen) Date: Wed Mar 8 20:34:22 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] How Many Checkers do you Own In-Reply-To: <20060308.114459.-778407.4.tmowens44@juno.com> References: <20060308.114459.-778407.4.tmowens44@juno.com> Message-ID: <440F85D9.5000107@clearwire.net> I own one, would've had another but missed the pumpkin orange 64 that disappeared from Clarkston last year. I want to find a parts car close and cheap. God Bless. Walt From chicklet14572 at usadatanet.net Wed Mar 8 21:46:38 2006 From: chicklet14572 at usadatanet.net (teresa wagner) Date: Wed Mar 8 21:46:30 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 References: Message-ID: <004b01c64323$b0c366b0$ece54345@your318ruqz03z> Not many in this world can tell the difference between a 307 and a 350 or a 305 or a 327 for that matter. GM used the same casting for all those motors... Do the 350... Best of the bunch. cheapest too... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 5:17 AM Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 > Hello List! > > A few months ago I mailed to the list about my Checker (1968 Marathon > with a 307 V8) running bad. I got some really good advice and I have > checked/tested everything suggested. Still running bad. Probably > cilinder problems. Now i'm thinking about replacing the engine with a > 350 (cheaper/better performance) or I could have the 307 revised to > keep the car as original as possible. What would you do? > (I also posted this on the Checker taxi stand message board) > > regards from The Netherlands > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > From Europutt at aol.com Thu Mar 9 14:45:48 2006 From: Europutt at aol.com (Europutt@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 14:45:53 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] How Many Checkers do you Own Message-ID: <68.671f6cd6.3141dfec@aol.com> I have one. A 1963 Superpa Wagon. I am the second owner. Took me 16 years to get Hoppy to sell her to me. I have had her for 6 years. The only 2 options are the 3 speed auto and a posi rear end. I have freshened up most of the car All the rolling and moving parts in the car are new or over hauled. The paint is fresh and the Continal OHV 6 has about 15,000 sense I freshened up a low mileage core. I drive her almost every day. Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060309/8d964bcf/attachment.htm From baggins at well.com Thu Mar 9 15:54:00 2006 From: baggins at well.com (baggins@well.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 15:54:51 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter Message-ID: <200603092054.k29KshAa010005@atlmta3.mycingular.net> Ron, do you need a wagon gas tank? (1968) -----Original Message----- From: Carguy Subj: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 8:04 Size: 1K To: Checker Mailing List Five. One parts car sedan, one builder wagon, two driver wagons, and one driver sedan. Why more than one? Well, the first wagon led to the chance to buy two more in a package deal, which led to the parts car. Then I decided I wanted a sedan, and the driver sedan came up on eBay - here in town! One seems to lead to another ... Ron Shull Tucson Joe Fay wrote: Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. --- message truncated --- From samuel.galano at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 15:57:52 2006 From: samuel.galano at gmail.com (Samuel Galano) Date: Thu Mar 9 15:57:47 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603092054.k29KshAa010005@atlmta3.mycingular.net> References: <200603092054.k29KshAa010005@atlmta3.mycingular.net> Message-ID: <251435f20603091257p3d88c99cjfe03fa355f494b0f@mail.gmail.com> Just say "yes" Ron. Samuel On 3/9/06, baggins@well.com wrote: > > Ron, do you need a wagon gas tank? > (1968) > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carguy > Subj: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter > Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 8:04 > Size: 1K > To: Checker Mailing List > > Five. One parts car sedan, one builder wagon, two driver wagons, and one > driver sedan. Why more than one? Well, the first wagon led to the chance to > buy two more in a package deal, which led to the parts car. Then I decided I > wanted a sedan, and the driver sedan came up on eBay - here in town! One > seems to lead to another ... > > Ron Shull > Tucson > > Joe Fay wrote: > Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: > > How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. --- > message truncated --- > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060309/6b0328e3/attachment.htm From RRLfire at aol.com Thu Mar 9 16:01:24 2006 From: RRLfire at aol.com (RRLfire@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 16:01:35 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter Message-ID: <1eb.4c75ffce.3141f1a4@aol.com> NO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060309/5b6d2cd5/attachment.htm From Baggins at well.com Thu Mar 9 17:04:51 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Thu Mar 9 17:05:01 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 In-Reply-To: <004b01c64323$b0c366b0$ece54345@your318ruqz03z> References: <004b01c64323$b0c366b0$ece54345@your318ruqz03z> Message-ID: <84049228-D7B8-4FBE-863E-1BB54EEB2E1E@well.com> I'd take the 327! VROOM! On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:46 PM, teresa wagner wrote: > Not many in this world can tell the difference between a 307 and a > 350 or a 305 or a 327 for that matter. GM used the same casting > for all those motors... Do the 350... Best of the bunch. > cheapest too... > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 5:17 AM > Subject: [Checker-l] 307 vs 350 > > >> Hello List! >> >> A few months ago I mailed to the list about my Checker (1968 Marathon >> with a 307 V8) running bad. I got some really good advice and I have >> checked/tested everything suggested. Still running bad. Probably >> cilinder problems. Now i'm thinking about replacing the engine with a >> 350 (cheaper/better performance) or I could have the 307 revised to >> keep the car as original as possible. What would you do? >> (I also posted this on the Checker taxi stand message board) >> >> regards from The Netherlands >> >> Peter >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Checker mailing list >> Checker@textfiles.com >> http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From Baggins at well.com Thu Mar 9 17:06:09 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Thu Mar 9 17:06:42 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] RE: Both Questions of the quarter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like more "greenhouse." On Mar 8, 2006, at 3:46 PM, William T. Brandum wrote: > Q1: > I say a retro style with modern mechanicals. I designed one for a > Motor Trend contest a few years ago (Honorable Mention), but I > wanted to change my design to look more Checker-y. I never got > around to it, but what I'm thinking of looks like this: > http://www.wired.com/wired/images.html? > issue=13.11&topic=play&img=1&pg=16 > A different photo was also in Old Cars Weekly. > BTW, they stole the sliding doors idea from me. > > Q2: > I only have one. I would have had two, but the one I found in a > field just a few miles from my house was hauled away, despite my > several attempts to contact the owner. @#$@#!! > I want at least three more: a wagon, a hearsified A12W6, and a two > door convertible. > > ~Will > > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From Baggins at well.com Thu Mar 9 17:11:24 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Thu Mar 9 17:11:37 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <440EEE0C.4010406@insightbb.com> References: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> <440EEE0C.4010406@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Are parts to do the LPG conversion available? Here in CA "alternate fuel" cars can get a sticker to use car pool lanes when only the driver is on board. A Fueling station is available to allow one to refill at home with city gas at lower cost, I understand. Does this kill performance? What is the aproximate range? Thanks On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:45 AM, john_weinhoeft wrote: > One and a half now ... > > I started off with one in 1999, an 82 A-11 LPG "Happy Cab" in need > of major restoration. I wasn't getting it done fast enough so my > wife suggested buying a nicer one. That's how I ended up with the > 81 A-12 in November 2000. When I suggested selling the 82, my wife > said keep since I had the storage space. So the 82 stayed. > Somewhere along the way I bought a stockpile of NOS Checker body > parts, enough to do a complete car plus some spares. Then I gave > the 82 to Bryan in 2003 as a high school graduation gift. > > John W > > Joe Fay wrote: >> Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: >> How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? >> Joe Fay >> President >> Checker Car Club of America >> http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From Baggins at well.com Thu Mar 9 17:13:04 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Thu Mar 9 17:13:15 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Another Question of the quarter In-Reply-To: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> References: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: I have a 1968 Wagon that is becoming a "Modern Checker" and a 1971 A12W that is my primary driver (my mommyvan alternative.) On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:56 AM, Joe Fay wrote: > > Paul Worth's email has inspired a Question Of the Quarter: > > How many Checkers do you own? If more than one why? > > Joe Fay > President > Checker Car Club of America > http://www.checkercarclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From Europutt at aol.com Thu Mar 9 18:44:51 2006 From: Europutt at aol.com (Europutt@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 18:44:50 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Got one? Message-ID: <235.843d807.314217f3@aol.com> Hi there I am looking for an interior piece. On the heater control side I need the plastic overlay that separates the cable slides. Mine has missing pieces. I would take the other side and drimmal the slots and do without the labeling if need be. I have a `63 Superpa but it may be the same in all big glove box cars or cabs. I am just tired of looking at the missing space. Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe Fay President Checker Car Club of America http://www.checkercarclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From cabbie_a12 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 9 19:16:59 2006 From: cabbie_a12 at hotmail.com (Dan Nelson) Date: Thu Mar 9 19:16:57 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Check 6-cyl dress-up In-Reply-To: <440DC5FC.6010307@valdosta.edu> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060309/3bad858c/attachment.htm From samuel.galano at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 19:43:19 2006 From: samuel.galano at gmail.com (Samuel Galano) Date: Thu Mar 9 19:43:14 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Check 6-cyl dress-up In-Reply-To: References: <440DC5FC.6010307@valdosta.edu> Message-ID: <251435f20603091643k50fcb2d9v31bdfbb09888072@mail.gmail.com> Dan: Go to this web site and download and install their toolbar. When you see the access you'll gain to aftermarket parts, you won't believe it. I've found everything necessary to completely build or rebuild most any vehicle. Samuel On 3/9/06, Dan Nelson wrote: > > Take a look at www.inliners.org they have a bullitainboard that is full > of info.They also have a 12 port venders link on their homepage that has > some good stuff. you can also try lagdons stovebolt engine site. The > inliners site is great! > > ------------------------------ > From: *Paul Worth * > Reply-To: *Checker Mailing List * > To: *checker@textfiles.com* > Subject: *[Checker-l] Check 6-cyl dress-up* > Date: *Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:42:20 -0500* > >This weekend, I bought another Checker (up to four now) to use the > >drivetrain and other parts. It is a 1978 A11 with six cylinder > >engine and Turbo 400 tranny. The body is unsalvageable but the > >drivetrain is great. I plan to use the chassis in building a > >Checker "Trekker" pickup. > > > >This truck is for my wife and we want to dress up the engine > >compartment a bit. Does anybody here have some good sources for > >dress-up parts for Chevy 250 engines? I have found a few things in > >the old Chevy pickup aftermarket and I know about Clifford > >Performance. What else is there? > > > >Paul Worth > >72 A12 > >77 A11 > >77 A12 > >78 A11 > >_______________________________________________ > >Checker mailing list > >Checker@textfiles.com > >http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060309/14577201/attachment.htm From john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com Thu Mar 9 21:32:39 2006 From: john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com (john_weinhoeft) Date: Thu Mar 9 21:30:30 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: References: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> <440EEE0C.4010406@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <4410E547.4000908@insightbb.com> Tom, Short answer: Yes, but ... Long answer: Checker used two different LPG systems, IMPCO and Century. Complete repair parts or component sets of either brand can be obtained from Alternative Fuel Systems in Arlington Heights, IL. (plus other locations) ... [not to be confused with another company by the same name]. Their web site is more a web page http://www.altfuel.com/ but they have a real nice 120 page printed catalog (mine is about 6 years old). However ... what is NOT available from them are the original Checker fuel tanks or fuel tank gauge sending unit. So you would have to cobble up a storage tank system. There are some original tanks floating around at ridiculous asking prices; you can probably buy a running Checker LPG parts car cheaper than what I've seen for Checker NOS tanks. AFS has lots of experience (45+ years) in doing alternative fuel conversions and supporting alternate fuel systems. They're a major source of parts and ship world-wide. Oh yeah, they are "car people" (or at least the guy I dealt with). AFS can do pure LPG, pure CNG, digester (think methane) and various bi-mode and tri-mode combinations that also include gasoline. The various fuels have different attributes and requirements. I can knowledgeably talk about the LPG trade-offs. With LPG, you have roughly 10% less fuel density (BTU/gal.). As a result, you generate roughly 10% less horsepower and have 10% less MPG ... your results will vary. Also, LPG has some specific changes required for the motor, primarily the distributor advance curve. Due to the slower burn rate of propane, you will need a distributor with about 10 degrees more initial advance and with maximum advance limited to about 10 degrees less than the same engine running on gasoline. The other change is the thermostat; LPG likes to run cool, the "ideal" car engine operating temperature is 160 degrees. Going from 160 to 180 drops horsepower by 10%; going from 180 to 190 is another 10% drop and the drop off curve accelerates beyond 190. Range will depend on a number of factors. The factory Checker setup had a 33 gallon tank which at 90% fill (standard for LPG but not always achieved) is roughly 29 gallons times about 13 MPG (mixed driving) yields a range of 377 miles. Most owners don't have working gas gauges (bad sending units, never were worth a darn even when new) and just fill up every 225 - 250 miles which is about right if you've been running the car in town only with partial cold operation plus start / stop driving resulting in about 10 MPG. Note: the Century system got about 1 MPG better than the IMPCO system but neither were great. Averages were between 12 city (IMPCO) and 15 highway (Century). If you want to know more about the LPG, email me off list. I've got the entire Checker LPG engineering / test file plus various IMPCO documents including some generic LPG documentation that I've scanned in and put in PDF format. The IMPCO doc is 37 MB and the Checker doc is 47 MB. I can always send you the index to all the documents I have or pull out specific pages for you, such as the power drop off curve. John W Thomas Mcintyre wrote: > Are parts to do the LPG conversion available? > Here in CA "alternate fuel" cars can get a sticker to use car pool > lanes when only the driver is on board. > A Fueling station is available to allow one to refill at home with city > gas at lower cost, I understand. > Does this kill performance? > What is the aproximate range? > Thanks From Baggins at well.com Thu Mar 9 23:22:17 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Thu Mar 9 23:22:14 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: <4410E547.4000908@insightbb.com> References: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> <440EEE0C.4010406@insightbb.com> <4410E547.4000908@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <65496F95-03AD-413D-8EF3-0777B2224F00@well.com> So the key is finding a good Checker tank and maybe sending unit? Is the converted car cheaper to run than a gasoline version? (I bet that is one of those "Well, depending on dozens of variables.....") On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:32 PM, john_weinhoeft wrote: > Tom, > > Short answer: Yes, but ... > > Long answer: > > Checker used two different LPG systems, IMPCO and Century. Complete > repair parts or component sets of either brand can be obtained from > Alternative Fuel Systems in Arlington Heights, IL. (plus other > locations) ... [not to be confused with another company by the same > name]. > > Their web site is more a web page http://www.altfuel.com/ but they > have a real nice 120 page printed catalog (mine is about 6 years old). > > However ... what is NOT available from them are the original > Checker fuel tanks or fuel tank gauge sending unit. So you would > have to cobble up a storage tank system. There are some original > tanks floating around at ridiculous asking prices; you can probably > buy a running Checker LPG parts car cheaper than what I've seen for > Checker NOS tanks. > > AFS has lots of experience (45+ years) in doing alternative fuel > conversions and supporting alternate fuel systems. They're a major > source of parts and ship world-wide. > > Oh yeah, they are "car people" (or at least the guy I dealt with). > > AFS can do pure LPG, pure CNG, digester (think methane) and various > bi-mode and tri-mode combinations that also include gasoline. > > The various fuels have different attributes and requirements. I can > knowledgeably talk about the LPG trade-offs. > > With LPG, you have roughly 10% less fuel density (BTU/gal.). As a > result, you generate roughly 10% less horsepower and have 10% less > MPG ... your results will vary. > > Also, LPG has some specific changes required for the motor, > primarily the distributor advance curve. Due to the slower burn > rate of propane, you will need a distributor with about 10 degrees > more initial advance and with maximum advance limited to about 10 > degrees less than the same engine running on gasoline. The other > change is the thermostat; LPG likes to run cool, the "ideal" car > engine operating temperature is 160 degrees. Going from 160 to 180 > drops horsepower by 10%; going from 180 to 190 is another 10% drop > and the drop off curve accelerates beyond 190. > > Range will depend on a number of factors. The factory Checker setup > had a 33 gallon tank which at 90% fill (standard for LPG but not > always achieved) is roughly 29 gallons times about 13 MPG (mixed > driving) yields a range of 377 miles. Most owners don't have > working gas gauges (bad sending units, never were worth a darn even > when new) and just fill up every 225 - 250 miles which is about > right if you've been running the car in town only with partial cold > operation plus start / stop driving resulting in about 10 MPG. > > Note: the Century system got about 1 MPG better than the IMPCO > system but neither were great. Averages were between 12 city > (IMPCO) and 15 highway (Century). > > If you want to know more about the LPG, email me off list. I've got > the entire Checker LPG engineering / test file plus various IMPCO > documents including some generic LPG documentation that I've > scanned in and put in PDF format. The IMPCO doc is 37 MB and the > Checker doc is 47 MB. I can always send you the index to all the > documents I have or pull out specific pages for you, such as the > power drop off curve. > > John W > > Thomas Mcintyre wrote: >> Are parts to do the LPG conversion available? >> Here in CA "alternate fuel" cars can get a sticker to use car >> pool lanes when only the driver is on board. >> A Fueling station is available to allow one to refill at home >> with city gas at lower cost, I understand. >> Does this kill performance? >> What is the aproximate range? >> Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From Baggins at well.com Thu Mar 9 23:41:58 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Thu Mar 9 23:42:03 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: <65496F95-03AD-413D-8EF3-0777B2224F00@well.com> References: <200603081356.k28DuQrW014102@checker.divisionpoint.net> <440EEE0C.4010406@insightbb.com> <4410E547.4000908@insightbb.com> <65496F95-03AD-413D-8EF3-0777B2224F00@well.com> Message-ID: sorry, this was meant to be off list On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Thomas Mcintyre wrote: > So the key is finding a good Checker tank and maybe sending unit? > Is the converted car cheaper to run than a gasoline version? > (I bet that is one of those "Well, depending on dozens of > variables.....") > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:32 PM, john_weinhoeft wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> Short answer: Yes, but ... >> >> Long answer: >> >> Checker used two different LPG systems, IMPCO and Century. >> Complete repair parts or component sets of either brand can be >> obtained from Alternative Fuel Systems in Arlington Heights, IL. >> (plus other locations) ... [not to be confused with another >> company by the same name]. >> >> Their web site is more a web page http://www.altfuel.com/ but they >> have a real nice 120 page printed catalog (mine is about 6 years >> old). >> >> However ... what is NOT available from them are the original >> Checker fuel tanks or fuel tank gauge sending unit. So you would >> have to cobble up a storage tank system. There are some original >> tanks floating around at ridiculous asking prices; you can >> probably buy a running Checker LPG parts car cheaper than what >> I've seen for Checker NOS tanks. >> >> AFS has lots of experience (45+ years) in doing alternative fuel >> conversions and supporting alternate fuel systems. They're a major >> source of parts and ship world-wide. >> >> Oh yeah, they are "car people" (or at least the guy I dealt with). >> >> AFS can do pure LPG, pure CNG, digester (think methane) and >> various bi-mode and tri-mode combinations that also include gasoline. >> >> The various fuels have different attributes and requirements. I >> can knowledgeably talk about the LPG trade-offs. >> >> With LPG, you have roughly 10% less fuel density (BTU/gal.). As a >> result, you generate roughly 10% less horsepower and have 10% less >> MPG ... your results will vary. >> >> Also, LPG has some specific changes required for the motor, >> primarily the distributor advance curve. Due to the slower burn >> rate of propane, you will need a distributor with about 10 degrees >> more initial advance and with maximum advance limited to about 10 >> degrees less than the same engine running on gasoline. The other >> change is the thermostat; LPG likes to run cool, the "ideal" car >> engine operating temperature is 160 degrees. Going from 160 to 180 >> drops horsepower by 10%; going from 180 to 190 is another 10% drop >> and the drop off curve accelerates beyond 190. >> >> Range will depend on a number of factors. The factory Checker >> setup had a 33 gallon tank which at 90% fill (standard for LPG but >> not always achieved) is roughly 29 gallons times about 13 MPG >> (mixed driving) yields a range of 377 miles. Most owners don't >> have working gas gauges (bad sending units, never were worth a >> darn even when new) and just fill up every 225 - 250 miles which >> is about right if you've been running the car in town only with >> partial cold operation plus start / stop driving resulting in >> about 10 MPG. >> >> Note: the Century system got about 1 MPG better than the IMPCO >> system but neither were great. Averages were between 12 city >> (IMPCO) and 15 highway (Century). >> >> If you want to know more about the LPG, email me off list. I've >> got the entire Checker LPG engineering / test file plus various >> IMPCO documents including some generic LPG documentation that I've >> scanned in and put in PDF format. The IMPCO doc is 37 MB and the >> Checker doc is 47 MB. I can always send you the index to all the >> documents I have or pull out specific pages for you, such as the >> power drop off curve. >> >> John W >> >> Thomas Mcintyre wrote: >>> Are parts to do the LPG conversion available? >>> Here in CA "alternate fuel" cars can get a sticker to use car >>> pool lanes when only the driver is on board. >>> A Fueling station is available to allow one to refill at home >>> with city gas at lower cost, I understand. >>> Does this kill performance? >>> What is the aproximate range? >>> Thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Checker mailing list >> Checker@textfiles.com >> http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From Europutt at aol.com Sat Mar 11 17:07:58 2006 From: Europutt at aol.com (Europutt@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 17:08:00 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts Message-ID: <2ce.4c8a329.3144a43e@aol.com> Tom if memory serves me. California will let you remove the entire gas system from the car and be smog exempt. LPG has a high octane rating {anti knock } and can do some big hp numbers when an engine is set up for it. Blown Big Block in a post `74 car? Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060311/c985a79e/attachment.htm From Baggins at well.com Sun Mar 12 11:54:39 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Sun Mar 12 11:54:51 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: <2ce.4c8a329.3144a43e@aol.com> References: <2ce.4c8a329.3144a43e@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E8E1273-F64B-4DAE-9DC8-273C05AC2411@well.com> Mine is a 1971 This seems like too much trouble, though. On Mar 11, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Europutt@aol.com wrote: > Tom if memory serves me. California will let you remove the entire > gas system from the car and be smog exempt. LPG has a high octane > rating {anti knock } and can do some big hp numbers when an engine > is set up for it. > Blown Big Block in a post `74 car? > Roger > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060312/399ec4c6/attachment.htm From Baggins at well.com Sun Mar 12 11:55:05 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Sun Mar 12 11:55:01 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: <2ce.4c8a329.3144a43e@aol.com> References: <2ce.4c8a329.3144a43e@aol.com> Message-ID: How are you? On Mar 11, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Europutt@aol.com wrote: > Tom if memory serves me. California will let you remove the entire > gas system from the car and be smog exempt. LPG has a high octane > rating {anti knock } and can do some big hp numbers when an engine > is set up for it. > Blown Big Block in a post `74 car? > Roger > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060312/c025041b/attachment.htm From JAVONPLI at southernco.com Sun Mar 12 12:11:58 2006 From: JAVONPLI at southernco.com (VonPlinsky, Jonathan A.) Date: Sun Mar 12 12:11:51 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts Message-ID: Dear Checkerites , I am in the process of swapping engines in my A11 '81. It was converted to propane upon delivery from the factory to an Augusta cab company in NOV.,1981.It has the 229 c.i. V6 and the IMPCO system professionally rebuilt(the system not the engine-it does not need it)about 6000 miles ago.I put about 3500 miles on the car per year since I bought it in 2002.I am swapping engines because I want a little more power and to be able to fill-up with gasoline. Anyone interested contact me off list: Jonathan Von Plinsky-706-798-5265 -----Original Message----- From: checker-bounces@textfiles.com [mailto:checker-bounces@textfiles.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Mcintyre Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:42 PM To: Checker Mailing List Subject: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts sorry, this was meant to be off list On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Thomas Mcintyre wrote: > So the key is finding a good Checker tank and maybe sending unit? > Is the converted car cheaper to run than a gasoline version? > (I bet that is one of those "Well, depending on dozens of > variables.....") > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:32 PM, john_weinhoeft wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> Short answer: Yes, but ... >> >> Long answer: >> >> Checker used two different LPG systems, IMPCO and Century. >> Complete repair parts or component sets of either brand can be >> obtained from Alternative Fuel Systems in Arlington Heights, IL. >> (plus other locations) ... [not to be confused with another >> company by the same name]. >> >> Their web site is more a web page http://www.altfuel.com/ but they >> have a real nice 120 page printed catalog (mine is about 6 years >> old). >> >> However ... what is NOT available from them are the original >> Checker fuel tanks or fuel tank gauge sending unit. So you would >> have to cobble up a storage tank system. There are some original >> tanks floating around at ridiculous asking prices; you can >> probably buy a running Checker LPG parts car cheaper than what >> I've seen for Checker NOS tanks. >> >> AFS has lots of experience (45+ years) in doing alternative fuel >> conversions and supporting alternate fuel systems. They're a major >> source of parts and ship world-wide. >> >> Oh yeah, they are "car people" (or at least the guy I dealt with). >> >> AFS can do pure LPG, pure CNG, digester (think methane) and >> various bi-mode and tri-mode combinations that also include gasoline. >> >> The various fuels have different attributes and requirements. I >> can knowledgeably talk about the LPG trade-offs. >> >> With LPG, you have roughly 10% less fuel density (BTU/gal.). As a >> result, you generate roughly 10% less horsepower and have 10% less >> MPG ... your results will vary. >> >> Also, LPG has some specific changes required for the motor, >> primarily the distributor advance curve. Due to the slower burn >> rate of propane, you will need a distributor with about 10 degrees >> more initial advance and with maximum advance limited to about 10 >> degrees less than the same engine running on gasoline. The other >> change is the thermostat; LPG likes to run cool, the "ideal" car >> engine operating temperature is 160 degrees. Going from 160 to 180 >> drops horsepower by 10%; going from 180 to 190 is another 10% drop >> and the drop off curve accelerates beyond 190. >> >> Range will depend on a number of factors. The factory Checker >> setup had a 33 gallon tank which at 90% fill (standard for LPG but >> not always achieved) is roughly 29 gallons times about 13 MPG >> (mixed driving) yields a range of 377 miles. Most owners don't >> have working gas gauges (bad sending units, never were worth a >> darn even when new) and just fill up every 225 - 250 miles which >> is about right if you've been running the car in town only with >> partial cold operation plus start / stop driving resulting in >> about 10 MPG. >> >> Note: the Century system got about 1 MPG better than the IMPCO >> system but neither were great. Averages were between 12 city >> (IMPCO) and 15 highway (Century). >> >> If you want to know more about the LPG, email me off list. I've >> got the entire Checker LPG engineering / test file plus various >> IMPCO documents including some generic LPG documentation that I've >> scanned in and put in PDF format. The IMPCO doc is 37 MB and the >> Checker doc is 47 MB. I can always send you the index to all the >> documents I have or pull out specific pages for you, such as the >> power drop off curve. >> >> John W >> >> Thomas Mcintyre wrote: >>> Are parts to do the LPG conversion available? >>> Here in CA "alternate fuel" cars can get a sticker to use car >>> pool lanes when only the driver is on board. >>> A Fueling station is available to allow one to refill at home >>> with city gas at lower cost, I understand. >>> Does this kill performance? >>> What is the aproximate range? >>> Thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Checker mailing list >> Checker@textfiles.com >> http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From polyhistor1 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 11:25:16 2006 From: polyhistor1 at yahoo.com (Carguy) Date: Mon Mar 13 11:25:18 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Tornadoes in Springfield, Illinois Message-ID: <20060313162516.5594.qmail@web31409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey, John W.: I heard on the radio news this morning that tornadoes went through Springfield yesterday, and confirmed that on the State Journal-Register website. Did you sustain any damage? Ron Shull Tucson --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060313/aa8ebe0e/attachment.htm From Europutt at aol.com Mon Mar 13 12:16:59 2006 From: Europutt at aol.com (Europutt@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 14 08:36:06 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts Message-ID: <271.7645b8a.3147030b@aol.com> Skipped content of type multipart/related From Europutt at aol.com Tue Mar 14 20:16:29 2006 From: Europutt at aol.com (Europutt@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 14 20:16:36 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts Message-ID: <238.8a63c8f.3148c4ed@aol.com> I meant to sent that to Tom. Now you know I have other Vices besides Checkers Roger Vise Checker Citroen Dnepr BMW DAF Prealli KIng Midget ridable art -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060314/79ef1e21/attachment.htm From Baggins at well.com Wed Mar 15 00:00:19 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Wed Mar 15 00:00:57 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: <271.7645b8a.3147030b@aol.com> References: <271.7645b8a.3147030b@aol.com> Message-ID: <1BBC28BF-0289-44E7-9A06-77F45C9A93D4@well.com> Good to hear good news. I'm glad. On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:16 AM, Europutt@aol.com wrote: > I am OK. The Doc has told me that at this time the surgery is not > an option. He has done some test and believes the Syrinx is causing > most of the nerve damage. they are going to watch it and do some > test to find out if my sleep apnea is being caused by this instead > of the usual flapper problem. My head has stopped working me over > so that is good. > > The Hotrod shop on the corner is cleaning up this year. Won a bunch > of awards in Seattle last week. They are building a steel bodied > car at the moment as a test car. They are going to be the reps for > the people in Indiana that are making several steel bodies. > My grandson and I took the 2 wheel drive BMW?Dnepr ? for a ride in > the snow and mud last week. > Roger > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060314/361a6d81/attachment.htm From captunderdog at clearwire.net Wed Mar 15 18:03:55 2006 From: captunderdog at clearwire.net (Walt Taufen) Date: Wed Mar 15 18:04:01 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Hydrogen Power Message-ID: <44189D5B.1080400@clearwire.net> I found some more stuff on that hydrogen generator. The inventor (Cornish) is, according to this first url, missing in action. But according to the second url he is in South Africa running a Cancer clinic. Dieter, could he be a neighbor of yours? If it weren't for the "powers that be" hydrogen powered Checkers would be closer than you think. http://www.keelynet.com/energy/cornish.htm http://www.network6000.com/news2006/html/march_2006.html God Bless. Walt From willietb at hotmail.com Wed Mar 15 18:46:57 2006 From: willietb at hotmail.com (William T. Brandum) Date: Wed Mar 15 18:46:50 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: <238.8a63c8f.3148c4ed@aol.com> Message-ID: There's a King Midget article in the new Hemmings Classic Car. Also a mention of Ben Merkel and some weird Olds. ~W. >From: Europutt@aol.com >Reply-To: Checker Mailing List >To: checker@textfiles.com >Subject: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:16:29 EST > >I meant to sent that to Tom. Now you know I have other Vices besides >Checkers >Roger Vise >Checker >Citroen >Dnepr >BMW >DAF >Prealli >KIng Midget >ridable art >_______________________________________________ >Checker mailing list >Checker@textfiles.com >http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com Wed Mar 15 18:56:51 2006 From: john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com (john_weinhoeft) Date: Wed Mar 15 18:54:21 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Tornadoes in Springfield, Illinois In-Reply-To: <20060313162516.5594.qmail@web31409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060313162516.5594.qmail@web31409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4418A9C3.1020307@insightbb.com> Ron, Thanks for checking. All of our families are fine; no deaths due to the storm and only about 24 injuries in the city. Just got power back a couple of hours ago. Finally got time to check email. F2 went through 2 - 3 blocks south of my house. No damage to speak of to my house; limbs, no power, couple of down spouts damaged. Did get some minor damage to rental 5 blocks away; track went 200 - 300 feet south of it; lost 3 large window awnings and wood garage slightly twisted and door jammed. Luckily I took the 81 out of there a week ago and brought back to my brick one. But even it held; the renter's car was in there and undamaged. We were extremely lucky. Lots of people lost everything down to the ground or had major damage. And right now it looks like a couple of weeks to get power back to the last 8,000 or so without it. John W Carguy wrote: > Hey, John W.: > > I heard on the radio news this morning that tornadoes went through > Springfield yesterday, and confirmed that on the State Journal-Register > website. Did you sustain any damage? > > Ron Shull > Tucson > From Baggins at well.com Wed Mar 15 19:24:13 2006 From: Baggins at well.com (Thomas Mcintyre) Date: Wed Mar 15 19:24:05 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CF8FF6F-45FA-4CBF-9460-777E4DDA1A5E@well.com> What is a Prealli? On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:46 PM, William T. Brandum wrote: > There's a King Midget article in the new Hemmings Classic Car. Also > a mention of Ben Merkel and some weird Olds. > ~W. > > >> From: Europutt@aol.com >> Reply-To: Checker Mailing List >> To: checker@textfiles.com >> Subject: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts >> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:16:29 EST >> >> I meant to sent that to Tom. Now you know I have other Vices >> besides Checkers >> Roger Vise >> Checker >> Citroen >> Dnepr >> BMW >> DAF >> Prealli >> KIng Midget >> ridable art > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Checker mailing list >> Checker@textfiles.com >> http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker@textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > > From polyhistor1 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 15 20:49:03 2006 From: polyhistor1 at yahoo.com (Carguy) Date: Wed Mar 15 20:48:53 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Tornadoes in Springfield, Illinois In-Reply-To: <4418A9C3.1020307@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <20060316014903.29298.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Glad they missed you and yours, John. I'll take the desert heat over that kind of weather any day!! Ron john_weinhoeft wrote: Ron, Thanks for checking. All of our families are fine; no deaths due to the storm and only about 24 injuries in the city. Just got power back a couple of hours ago. Finally got time to check email. F2 went through 2 - 3 blocks south of my house. No damage to speak of to my house; limbs, no power, couple of down spouts damaged. Did get some minor damage to rental 5 blocks away; track went 200 - 300 feet south of it; lost 3 large window awnings and wood garage slightly twisted and door jammed. Luckily I took the 81 out of there a week ago and brought back to my brick one. But even it held; the renter's car was in there and undamaged. We were extremely lucky. Lots of people lost everything down to the ground or had major damage. And right now it looks like a couple of weeks to get power back to the last 8,000 or so without it. John W Carguy wrote: > Hey, John W.: > > I heard on the radio news this morning that tornadoes went through > Springfield yesterday, and confirmed that on the State Journal-Register > website. Did you sustain any damage? > > Ron Shull > Tucson > _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker --------------------------------- Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060315/0a2963cb/attachment.htm From Europutt at aol.com Fri Mar 17 13:28:01 2006 From: Europutt at aol.com (Europutt@aol.com) Date: Fri Mar 17 13:28:02 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts Message-ID: <27a.6763ee5.314c59b1@aol.com> A 50`s big wheel scooter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060319/aa74278c/attachment.htm From pkcstevens at plumbersgroup.com Mon Mar 27 16:34:14 2006 From: pkcstevens at plumbersgroup.com (Pam Cook-Stevens) Date: Mon Mar 27 16:34:00 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts In-Reply-To: <238.8a63c8f.3148c4ed@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi, I live 1 hour outside Dallas,Texas and have a 72 Checker Marathon. I am wanting to find out if you or any of your friends can give me a link or the name of a place to get window replacement parts, headlight assemblies, anything to replace what I have. It has set up a while and some things are rotted. I am finally able to get some of the things replaced and get it painted. Thanks, Pam -----Original Message----- From: checker-bounces@textfiles.com [mailto:checker-bounces@textfiles.com]On Behalf Of Europutt@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:16 PM To: checker@textfiles.com Subject: Re: [Checker-l] Re: Checker LPG Conversion Parts I meant to sent that to Tom. Now you know I have other Vices besides Checkers Roger Vise Checker Citroen Dnepr BMW DAF Prealli KIng Midget ridable art -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20060327/93243f71/attachment.htm From john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com Mon Mar 27 19:03:39 2006 From: john_weinhoeft at insightbb.com (john_weinhoeft) Date: Mon Mar 27 19:00:24 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker Parts Sources and Club Web Site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44287D5B.8060709@insightbb.com> Pam, Start at www.checkercarclub.org Even if you aren't a club member, you can find a lot of information on the Checker club web site. Over 1/2 of it is public access but you'll have to join the club at $20 / year for the really good stuff like the manuals and being able to post notes, pictures, etc. Membership also gets you four 20 page newsletters a year. Used parts turn up fairly regular on eBay; I think some headlight buckets are there now. Some stuff that was used on other cars is readily available from various sources. Generic parts can be substituted for certain items. Other stuff like the actual window actuators were "Checker only". Most club members have a stash of parts for their personal use. Sometimes various club members have items for sale; check out the ads on the club web site. One of the only remaining full line / full time (more or less) vendor of new and used Checker parts is Joe Pollard; he has ads on the site. You can contact Joe by phone, fax or email at joe@checkerparts.com Ben Perlin ( checkerben@aol.com ) can supply early 2 inch gauge replacements and various sending units, especially gas tank senders. And I believe Erich Lachmann Jr. (last factory parts dealership) still has parts also. Feel free to email me directly if you have specific questions about the club, etc. John Weinhoeft Secretary, CCCoA, Inc., an Indiana Not-for-Profit, www.checkercarclub.org 81 A-12, 82 A-11 LPG & a Lustron Steel Home Pam Cook-Stevens wrote: > Hi, I live 1 hour outside Dallas,Texas and have a 72 Checker Marathon. I > am wanting to find out if you or any of your friends can give me a link > or the name of > a place to get window replacement parts, headlight assemblies, anything > to replace what I have. It has set up a while and some things are rotted. > I am finally able to get some of the things replaced and get it painted. > Thanks, > Pam From pkcstevens at plumbersgroup.com Tue Mar 28 11:55:29 2006 From: pkcstevens at plumbersgroup.com (Pam Cook-Stevens) Date: Tue Mar 28 11:55:15 2006 Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker Parts Sources and Club Web Site In-Reply-To: <44287D5B.8060709@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Thank you so much.I am joining the club today and I will check it out. We are not familiar with all that it needs but I know the trim around the windows and and windshield and back windshield. Pam -----Original Message----- From: checker-bounces@textfiles.com [mailto:checker-bounces@textfiles.com]On Behalf Of john_weinhoeft Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 6:04 PM To: Checker Mailing List Subject: [Checker-l] Re: Checker Parts Sources and Club Web Site Pam, Start at www.checkercarclub.org Even if you aren't a club member, you can find a lot of information on the Checker club web site. Over 1/2 of it is public access but you'll have to join the club at $20 / year for the really good stuff like the manuals and being able to post notes, pictures, etc. Membership also gets you four 20 page newsletters a year. Used parts turn up fairly regular on eBay; I think some headlight buckets are there now. Some stuff that was used on other cars is readily available from various sources. Generic parts can be substituted for certain items. Other stuff like the actual window actuators were "Checker only". Most club members have a stash of parts for their personal use. Sometimes various club members have items for sale; check out the ads on the club web site. One of the only remaining full line / full time (more or less) vendor of new and used Checker parts is Joe Pollard; he has ads on the site. You can contact Joe by phone, fax or email at joe@checkerparts.com Ben Perlin ( checkerben@aol.com ) can supply early 2 inch gauge replacements and various sending units, especially gas tank senders. And I believe Erich Lachmann Jr. (last factory parts dealership) still has parts also. Feel free to email me directly if you have specific questions about the club, etc. John Weinhoeft Secretary, CCCoA, Inc., an Indiana Not-for-Profit, www.checkercarclub.org 81 A-12, 82 A-11 LPG & a Lustron Steel Home Pam Cook-Stevens wrote: > Hi, I live 1 hour outside Dallas,Texas and have a 72 Checker Marathon. I > am wanting to find out if you or any of your friends can give me a link > or the name of > a place to get window replacement parts, headlight assemblies, anything > to replace what I have. It has set up a while and some things are rotted. > I am finally able to get some of the things replaced and get it painted. > Thanks, > Pam _______________________________________________ Checker mailing list Checker@textfiles.com http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker