From TPGdirop at aol.com Mon Oct 29 09:47:11 2007 From: TPGdirop at aol.com (TPGdirop at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:47:11 EDT Subject: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo Message-ID: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/?nav=pf) (http://ad.doubleclick.net/click;h=v8/35fa/3/0/*/j;114327742;0-0;1;7494067;2321-160/600;21658900/21676790/1;;~aopt=2/1/2c00a5/1;~sscs=?http://clk.atdmt.com /AST/go/wpnxxbrd0010000060ast/direct/01/) A Tempest in a Taxi Logo New Yorkers See Red Over the Redesign of a City Icon By Anthony Faiola Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, October 29, 2007; A03 NEW YORK -- In 21st-century _Manhattan_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Manhattan?tid=informline) -- hyper-gentrified home of the $25 million condo, the $40 million _Prada_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Prada+SpA+Group?tid=informline) "epicenter" store and the $1,000 caviar pizza -- perhaps it is no wonder that even the iconic yellow cab has a new designer look. And in a city where everyone is a critic, perhaps it is even less surprising that seemingly every New Yorker has something to say about it -- much of it not pleasant. In what locals are calling the biggest update to _New York_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/New+York?tid=informline) taxis since the 1970s -- when they were famously painted uniformly yellow -- the jazzed up new design was unveiled this month to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the metered cab. Out the door are the old exteriors with "_N.Y.C._ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/New+York+City?tid=informline) TAXI" emblazoned in small, simple script on the side of cabs. Instead, to build a better "brand identity," they are gradually being repainted with those same words in outsize and chunky block type. Additionally, the "T" in "Taxi" is encased in a circle reminiscent of city subway logos. A slightly futuristic version of the checker pattern of yore completes the fresh look. The extreme makeover of many New Yorkers' preferred mode of transport is the talk of the town. The wrath of Gothamites came quick. "It's official," declared the blog If It's Hip, It's Here. "Everyone HATES the re-designed NYC TAXI logo." Indeed, the _New York Times_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+New+York+Times+Company?tid=informline) has deemed the redesign enough of an offense for the paper to offer a week-long series on the largely negative local reaction, going as far as soliciting opinions from well-known designers for elaborate -- and occasionally brutal -- critiques. The root of the dust-up appears to be a sense among New Yorkers that officials are insulting their intelligence with the new logo. Does anyone in this city, where a taxi is an essential part of the fabric of life, really need a big encased "T" to tell them what it is? "I think New Yorkers feel it's patronizing to have such a huge sign telling them something they already know," said Josh Rubin, editor in chief of the New York-based design Web site Cool Hunting. "I also think we expect something more aesthetically sophisticated." New York officials insist the reaction hasn't been all bad and that tourists, in particular, will find the new logo more helpful in avoiding the unregulated gypsy cabs that also ply city streets. Eventually, they hope to take the redesign a giant step further. New York is planning to ask big automotive firms to develop a new type of environmentally friendly, disabled-accessible vehicle to replace the city's 13,000-strong cab fleet. They defend the logo as a first step. "We wanted a design that integrated the overall image of the city," said Matthew W. Daus, chairman of the New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission. "I think this does it." Meanwhile, the city has also launched a mobile art campaign on cabs through December -- in which taxi owners can voluntarily get their vehicle hoods and trunks painted over with big multicolored flowers. That, along with the new logo, seems to have pushed some New Yorkers over the edge. "It's an outrage!" decried the pop culture police at Gawker, another New York blog, adding that "while it is amusing to see your first one, seeing two or three on the same street is alarming, and the thought of all New York taxis being decorated with these kitschy flowers is horrifying. What's happening to us? Are we becoming Cute City?" A bit dazed by the fuss is Davin Stowell, chief executive of Smart Design, the Manhattan firm that approached the city with the logo idea. Stowell, whose firm is known for designing consumer products including Oxo Good Grips kitchen wares, said the intention was to create a "branded experience" for New York cab passengers. Smart Design's concept, he pointed out, was far less elaborate than the final version. He said the firm came to the city with a simple design in which the words "NYC Taxi" appeared in a typeface that merely recalled the print on driver's licenses. But as city officials zealously embraced the notion, they requested changes that led to the more flashy logo. "The city kept asking for changes," he said. "In the end, I do believe that what we're putting on taxis now is so much better than what we had, and I'm okay with taking the flak for everything." "But remember," he added. "This is New York City, and we have a large number of people with very strong opinions. It's not turning out quite the way we wanted, and it's a great deal more flak than we would have liked, but no matter what we put on there, someone in this city would have complained." ? 2007 The Washington Post Company ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20071029/3ef2e7b7/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2592 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20071029/3ef2e7b7/attachment.gif -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.textfiles.com/pipermail/checker/attachments/20071029/4a2788cc/attachment.htm From jfay at checkercarclub.org Tue Oct 30 07:51:09 2007 From: jfay at checkercarclub.org (Joe Fay) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:51:09 -0400 Subject: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is it me, bud are people bothered by a city agency requiring private owners to brand there taxis for the city? In Chicago we can brand our own cabs ie Checker/Yellow/NorthShore. Its the fleet owners cabs....shouldn't they be allowed to brand ther own product? Gone are the days in New York where we could see "Wags" the dog ont the side of an NYC cab or the US map on the side of a door on a "National" cab. Joe Fay On 10/29/2007, "TPGdirop" wrote: > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/?nav=pf) > > >(http://ad.doubleclick.net/click;h=v8/35fa/3/0/*/j;114327742;0-0;1;7494067;2321-160/600;21658900/21676790/1;;~aopt=2/1/2c00a5/1;~sscs=?http://clk.atdmt.com >/AST/go/wpnxxbrd0010000060ast/direct/01/) >A Tempest in a Taxi Logo >New Yorkers See Red Over the Redesign of a City Icon >By Anthony Faiola >Washington Post Staff Writer >Monday, October 29, 2007; A03 >NEW YORK -- In 21st-century _Manhattan_ >(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Manhattan?tid=informline) -- hyper-gentrified home of the $25 >million condo, the $40 million _Prada_ >(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Prada+SpA+Group?tid=informline) "epicenter" store and the $1,000 >caviar pizza -- perhaps it is no wonder that even the iconic yellow cab has a >new designer look. >And in a city where everyone is a critic, perhaps it is even less surprising >that seemingly every New Yorker has something to say about it -- much of it >not pleasant. >In what locals are calling the biggest update to _New York_ >(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/New+York?tid=informline) taxis since the >1970s -- when they were famously painted uniformly yellow -- the jazzed up new >design was unveiled this month to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the >metered cab. Out the door are the old exteriors with "_N.Y.C._ >(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/New+York+City?tid=informline) TAXI" emblazoned >in small, simple script on the side of cabs. >Instead, to build a better "brand identity," they are gradually being >repainted with those same words in outsize and chunky block type. Additionally, the >"T" in "Taxi" is encased in a circle reminiscent of city subway logos. A >slightly futuristic version of the checker pattern of yore completes the fresh >look. >The extreme makeover of many New Yorkers' preferred mode of transport is the >talk of the town. The wrath of Gothamites came quick. > >"It's official," declared the blog If It's Hip, It's Here. "Everyone HATES >the re-designed NYC TAXI logo." >Indeed, the _New York Times_ >(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+New+York+Times+Company?tid=informline) has deemed the redesign enough >of an offense for the paper to offer a week-long series on the largely >negative local reaction, going as far as soliciting opinions from well-known >designers for elaborate -- and occasionally brutal -- critiques. >The root of the dust-up appears to be a sense among New Yorkers that >officials are insulting their intelligence with the new logo. Does anyone in this >city, where a taxi is an essential part of the fabric of life, really need a >big encased "T" to tell them what it is? >"I think New Yorkers feel it's patronizing to have such a huge sign telling >them something they already know," said Josh Rubin, editor in chief of the >New York-based design Web site Cool Hunting. "I also think we expect something >more aesthetically sophisticated." >New York officials insist the reaction hasn't been all bad and that >tourists, in particular, will find the new logo more helpful in avoiding the >unregulated gypsy cabs that also ply city streets. Eventually, they hope to take the >redesign a giant step further. New York is planning to ask big automotive >firms to develop a new type of environmentally friendly, disabled-accessible >vehicle to replace the city's 13,000-strong cab fleet. They defend the logo as a >first step. "We wanted a design that integrated the overall image of the >city," said Matthew W. Daus, chairman of the New York City Taxi and Limousine >Commission. "I think this does it." >Meanwhile, the city has also launched a mobile art campaign on cabs through >December -- in which taxi owners can voluntarily get their vehicle hoods and >trunks painted over with big multicolored flowers. That, along with the new >logo, seems to have pushed some New Yorkers over the edge. >"It's an outrage!" decried the pop culture police at Gawker, another New >York blog, adding that "while it is amusing to see your first one, seeing two or >three on the same street is alarming, and the thought of all New York taxis >being decorated with these kitschy flowers is horrifying. What's happening to >us? Are we becoming Cute City?" >A bit dazed by the fuss is Davin Stowell, chief executive of Smart Design, >the Manhattan firm that approached the city with the logo idea. Stowell, whose >firm is known for designing consumer products including Oxo Good Grips >kitchen wares, said the intention was to create a "branded experience" for New >York cab passengers. >Smart Design's concept, he pointed out, was far less elaborate than the >final version. He said the firm came to the city with a simple design in which >the words "NYC Taxi" appeared in a typeface that merely recalled the print on >driver's licenses. But as city officials zealously embraced the notion, they >requested changes that led to the more flashy logo. >"The city kept asking for changes," he said. "In the end, I do believe that >what we're putting on taxis now is so much better than what we had, and I'm >okay with taking the flak for everything." >"But remember," he added. "This is New York City, and we have a large number >of people with very strong opinions. It's not turning out quite the way we >wanted, and it's a great deal more flak than we would have liked, but no >matter what we put on there, someone in this city would have complained." > > >? 2007 The Washington Post Company > > > > > >************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From pworth at valdosta.edu Tue Oct 30 08:42:57 2007 From: pworth at valdosta.edu (Paul Worth) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:42:57 -0400 Subject: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472734E1.1080105@valdosta.edu> Joe, While many would rightfully argue that the NYC taxi industry is too tightly regulated, I can see their point. If New Yorkers are to rely on taxis as "public" transportation there needs to be some consistency in service levels, pricing, and identification. With the demise of the Checker, modern taxis look like civilian vehicles. I'm sure the NYC transportation officials would argue that the fleet owners are not operating "their own product". They probably see the fleet owners as subcontractors, like McDonald's franchisees. Paul Worth Joe Fay wrote: > Is it me, bud are people bothered by a city agency requiring private > owners to brand there taxis for the city? > > In Chicago we can brand our own cabs ie Checker/Yellow/NorthShore. Its > the fleet owners cabs....shouldn't they be allowed to brand ther own > product? > > Gone are the days in New York where we could see "Wags" the dog ont the > side of an NYC cab or the US map on the side of a door on a "National" > cab. > > Joe Fay > > From jfay at checkercarclub.org Tue Oct 30 12:18:00 2007 From: jfay at checkercarclub.org (Joe Fay) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:18:00 -0400 Subject: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo In-Reply-To: <472734E1.1080105@valdosta.edu> Message-ID: <1oQM3Ese.1193764680.9724220.ccjfay@checker.divisionpoint.net> Paul: I understand your point.....I guess I just like the multicolor cabs that we have in Chicago. Didn't Atlanta try to standardize colors for the olympics? I know Checker stuck with the yellow and white cars in defiance. Joe On 10/30/2007, "Paul Worth" wrote: >Joe, > >While many would rightfully argue that the NYC taxi industry is too >tightly regulated, I can see their point. If New Yorkers are to rely on >taxis as "public" transportation there needs to be some consistency in >service levels, pricing, and identification. With the demise of the >Checker, modern taxis look like civilian vehicles. I'm sure the NYC >transportation officials would argue that the fleet owners are not >operating "their own product". They probably see the fleet owners as >subcontractors, like McDonald's franchisees. > >Paul Worth > > > >Joe Fay wrote: >> Is it me, bud are people bothered by a city agency requiring private >> owners to brand there taxis for the city? >> >> In Chicago we can brand our own cabs ie Checker/Yellow/NorthShore. Its >> the fleet owners cabs....shouldn't they be allowed to brand ther own >> product? >> >> Gone are the days in New York where we could see "Wags" the dog ont the >> side of an NYC cab or the US map on the side of a door on a "National" >> cab. >> >> Joe Fay >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Checker mailing list >Checker at textfiles.com >http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From pworth at valdosta.edu Tue Oct 30 12:40:34 2007 From: pworth at valdosta.edu (Paul Worth) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:40:34 -0400 Subject: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo In-Reply-To: <1oQM3Ese.1193764680.9724220.ccjfay@checker.divisionpoint.net> References: <1oQM3Ese.1193764680.9724220.ccjfay@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <47276C92.5060806@valdosta.edu> Joe, I like the Chicago multicolor cabs, too. My first Checker memory is standing on the steps of Museum of Science and Industry looking down at the multicolor Checkers going by. That was in 1980. I don't know much about Atlanta taxis. I'm about as far from Atlanta as you can get and still be in Georgia. I get up there about once a year just to remind myself why I don't want to live there. Paul Joe Fay wrote: > Paul: > > I understand your point.....I guess I just like the multicolor cabs that > we have in Chicago. > > Didn't Atlanta try to standardize colors for the olympics? I know > Checker stuck with the yellow and white cars in defiance. > > Joe > > On 10/30/2007, "Paul Worth" wrote: > > >> Joe, >> >> While many would rightfully argue that the NYC taxi industry is too >> tightly regulated, I can see their point. If New Yorkers are to rely on >> taxis as "public" transportation there needs to be some consistency in >> service levels, pricing, and identification. With the demise of the >> Checker, modern taxis look like civilian vehicles. I'm sure the NYC >> transportation officials would argue that the fleet owners are not >> operating "their own product". They probably see the fleet owners as >> subcontractors, like McDonald's franchisees. >> >> Paul Worth >> >> >> >> Joe Fay wrote: >> >>> Is it me, bud are people bothered by a city agency requiring private >>> owners to brand there taxis for the city? >>> >>> In Chicago we can brand our own cabs ie Checker/Yellow/NorthShore. Its >>> the fleet owners cabs....shouldn't they be allowed to brand ther own >>> product? >>> >>> Gone are the days in New York where we could see "Wags" the dog ont the >>> side of an NYC cab or the US map on the side of a door on a "National" >>> cab. >>> >>> Joe Fay >>> From gogubbe at comhem.se Tue Oct 30 12:52:23 2007 From: gogubbe at comhem.se (GoGubbe) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:52:23 +0100 Subject: [Checker-l] Checker Aerobus wanted References: <1oQM3Ese.1193764680.9724220.ccjfay@checker.divisionpoint.net> Message-ID: <000601c81b1d$a1161680$bfc796c1@matseinar> Hi friends One of us checker heads here in sweden has asked me to look for a Aerobus in decent condition he docent speak English so he asked me to look around if you bump into anything intresting drivable please email me on gogubbe at comhem.se all my best to you all from Sweden Mats-Einar J www.kultbil.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Fay" To: "Checker Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo > Paul: > > I understand your point.....I guess I just like the multicolor cabs that > we have in Chicago. > > Didn't Atlanta try to standardize colors for the olympics? I know > Checker stuck with the yellow and white cars in defiance. > > Joe > > On 10/30/2007, "Paul Worth" wrote: > >>Joe, >> >>While many would rightfully argue that the NYC taxi industry is too >>tightly regulated, I can see their point. If New Yorkers are to rely on >>taxis as "public" transportation there needs to be some consistency in >>service levels, pricing, and identification. With the demise of the >>Checker, modern taxis look like civilian vehicles. I'm sure the NYC >>transportation officials would argue that the fleet owners are not >>operating "their own product". They probably see the fleet owners as >>subcontractors, like McDonald's franchisees. >> >>Paul Worth >> >> >> >>Joe Fay wrote: >>> Is it me, bud are people bothered by a city agency requiring private >>> owners to brand there taxis for the city? >>> >>> In Chicago we can brand our own cabs ie Checker/Yellow/NorthShore. Its >>> the fleet owners cabs....shouldn't they be allowed to brand ther own >>> product? >>> >>> Gone are the days in New York where we could see "Wags" the dog ont the >>> side of an NYC cab or the US map on the side of a door on a "National" >>> cab. >>> >>> Joe Fay >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Checker mailing list >>Checker at textfiles.com >>http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker at textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From milthill at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 13:23:26 2007 From: milthill at comcast.net (milthill at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:23:26 +0000 Subject: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo Message-ID: <103020071823.16219.4727769E000B7FD000003F5B2216557996040407089B040703@comcast.net> I think Joe's memory is correct. I live in an Atlanta suburb and most cabs are white. It appears that those which are not white are Checker Cab and cabs based in the various suburban communities - over which the City of Atlanta has no control. Milt -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Paul Worth > Joe, > > I like the Chicago multicolor cabs, too. My first Checker memory is > standing on the steps of Museum of Science and Industry looking down at > the multicolor Checkers going by. That was in 1980. > > I don't know much about Atlanta taxis. I'm about as far from Atlanta as > you can get and still be in Georgia. I get up there about once a year > just to remind myself why I don't want to live there. > > Paul > > > Joe Fay wrote: > > Paul: > > > > I understand your point.....I guess I just like the multicolor cabs that > > we have in Chicago. > > > > Didn't Atlanta try to standardize colors for the olympics? I know > > Checker stuck with the yellow and white cars in defiance. > > > > Joe > > > > On 10/30/2007, "Paul Worth" wrote: > > > > > >> Joe, > >> > >> While many would rightfully argue that the NYC taxi industry is too > >> tightly regulated, I can see their point. If New Yorkers are to rely on > >> taxis as "public" transportation there needs to be some consistency in > >> service levels, pricing, and identification. With the demise of the > >> Checker, modern taxis look like civilian vehicles. I'm sure the NYC > >> transportation officials would argue that the fleet owners are not > >> operating "their own product". They probably see the fleet owners as > >> subcontractors, like McDonald's franchisees. > >> > >> Paul Worth > >> > >> > >> > >> Joe Fay wrote: > >> > >>> Is it me, bud are people bothered by a city agency requiring private > >>> owners to brand there taxis for the city? > >>> > >>> In Chicago we can brand our own cabs ie Checker/Yellow/NorthShore. Its > >>> the fleet owners cabs....shouldn't they be allowed to brand ther own > >>> product? > >>> > >>> Gone are the days in New York where we could see "Wags" the dog ont the > >>> side of an NYC cab or the US map on the side of a door on a "National" > >>> cab. > >>> > >>> Joe Fay > >>> > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker at textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker From phuzzah at webtv.net Wed Oct 31 19:26:22 2007 From: phuzzah at webtv.net (Peter Huggins) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:26:22 -0700 Subject: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo In-Reply-To: "Joe Fay" 's message of Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:51:09 -0400 Message-ID: <5491-47291D2E-86@storefull-3314.bay.webtv.net> Why are these messages repeating themselves over and over? Love and Grins,Peter http://community.webtv.net/phuzzah/ http://community.webtv.net/phuzzah/petersCHECKERpage From gogubbe at comhem.se Wed Oct 31 19:38:12 2007 From: gogubbe at comhem.se (GoGubbe) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 01:38:12 +0100 Subject: [Checker-l] my checker is for sale now References: <5491-47291D2E-86@storefull-3314.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <001401c81c1f$7db1d730$bfc796c1@matseinar> gotta sell due to finacial reasons check the ads at the checkercarclub.com Ill just buy another one once ive settled my finacial trouble... all my best to you out there pics can bee seen at the photo album under my name and in my website www.kultbil.com Regards Mats-Einar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Huggins" To: "Checker Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [Checker-l] A Tempest in a Taxi Logo > Why are these messages repeating themselves over and over? > > Love and Grins,Peter > > > > > http://community.webtv.net/phuzzah/ > > http://community.webtv.net/phuzzah/petersCHECKERpage > > _______________________________________________ > Checker mailing list > Checker at textfiles.com > http://mail.textfiles.com/mailman/listinfo/checker